Unpopular opinion on island sanctuarys.

[Supersnow845]

Not very smart to make that comparison to WoW when WoW is still the biggest MMO on the market by a considerable margin. Thanks in large parts to it's raid content. Lord knows that's the only strength that game has these days.

WOW runs on its endgame content (nobody timewalks these days) and it’s still bigger than 14 and people act like it’s a dead game that should be evidence that you should never pay attention to the raid community, if a game larger than 14 can be held up by its raid community if anything that’s more evidence that 4 scripted fights every 8 months and maybe an ultimate if it doesn’t get delayed every 2 years isn’t enough

[DixieBellOCE]

WOW runs on its endgame content (nobody timewalks these days) and it’s still bigger than 14 and people act like it’s a dead game that should be evidence that you should never pay attention to the raid community, if a game larger than 14 can be held up by its raid community if anything that’s more evidence that 4 scripted fights every 8 months and maybe an ultimate if it doesn’t get delayed every 2 years isn’t enough

But the sad realization is that nearly 90% of the community in FF14 do not do savage and ultimates (Based on numbers from XIVCensus and a certain publicly available log site).

XIV would never survive on raid content alone.

It needs its casual content, even if it dies out quicker.

[SturmChurro]

I'm a pretty casual player, and at this point I'm pretty much over IS entirely. It was alright as a distraction for two weeks of light play, while doing CC, but as of now it's just me trying to get the last rewards so that I don't have to enter the instance again - unless they add more, new desirable rewards.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Not very smart to make that comparison to WoW when WoW is still the biggest MMO on the market by a considerable margin. Thanks in large parts to it's raid content. Lord knows that's the only strength that game has these days.

Wanna know the big secret for why despite all its faults WoW still is kicking? One it has the honorary privilege of being the MMO that was at the right place at the right time to define a gaming generation. Sure it was at current FFXIV's position for being the casual MMO once upon a time but as the genre grew so did various gaming philosophies as well as our standards when it comes to gaming in general.

The only reason why WoW is still alive isn't truly because it's the best game, it's because it managed to built up a huge playerbase throughout it's longevity. People play WoW because of its predatory addiction and retention mechanics. mechanics that are both unfun and overall unhealthy for a community and these are things a lot of its playerbase are fully aware of and they complain yet. It's why so many people joke about having stockholm syndrome over the game because even when the game is at its absolute worst, there's that brand loyalty and number of players that keep it alive.

If you haven't realized since I actually keep up with current WoW news, the game in general isn't doing so well. The last 2 expansions flopped very hard and right now theyre at that all too familiar cycle of "listening to the playerbase" where they attempt to undo all the unfun systems that people have been criticizing. Dragonflight's expansion is prolly a lot of people's last hope ( let's face it, they'll come back) and if Blizzard doesn't knock it out of the park then it's uncertain how much of that gamer loyalty will help it keep afloat.

So far, they seem to be trying to listen to the community and the fact that they're trying to focus more on the casual aspect in a lot of ways speaks more for what truly matters in today's MMO standards.

[Lieri]

I wanted to get the outfit but I could only play it for 1 day. I guess its not for me. Its not interesting.

[Limonia]

It's boring. I like the visuals of the island, but I don't like how the mammets - which were forced upon me - just passive aggressively exploit the island while saying I'm the one who's deciding it.

The workshops and other facilities are ugly. If we at least could customize them like with housing. The mammets are annoying.

Tataru said I get an island to casually relax and instead I'm just working, working, working and getting yelled at by little robots.

The mammets act as if I am the one who wants to get rid of the beautiful vegetation just to build another ugly facility, but it's actually them who are forcing me to do so.
The facilities don't feel like they are mine, but belong to the mammets. Whenever I'm entering them it feels like I'm a guest.

The gathering is boring and tedious. The animation is slow and it's so noticeable how long it takes to summon your mount every time.
And you have to tediously switch between modes all the time.

I can't even really enjoy the scenery because it's always just night or raining anyway.

And the market stuff where you need to watch what's in demand is the most boring and convoluted thing ever.
The only thing that's worse about the Island Sanctuary is that weird manual. Can't even quickly look something up after unlocking a new feature because you have to read through 5 paragraphs of unfunny flavor text first.

This sounded like I really hate the Island Sanctuary, didn't it? Well, it's cute casual content and it definitely has potential, I like that. But everything is just so typically clunky again. And it's just way too monotonous. You can't really decide anything meaningful aside from on which predetermined plot you place which facility.

[Kaonis]

I have only had limited time to touch on island sanctuary, but it's been kind of a boring grind. It isn't helped by the fact that having to constantly switch modes is a pain (guessing this is due to 1.0 spaghetti code for an engine?). I haven't bothered to look much into the rewards, but it seems to just be some outfits and a mount or something? Seems like a lot of wasted time for little payoff.

Right now, to me, it looks to just be a more grindy and less rewarding version of mog garden from FFXI.

Like, I can see an interesting system there, but the execution of it is just off.

[GigiH]

Ok, so I went looking for the hairstyles, got one and was immediately disappointed as it's just a silly looking ponytail, not even going to bother trying for the other one. The rest of the experience is grind, grind, grind, for almost no reward.


About to demolish all of it and allow it to return to its pristine beauty prior to my intrusion.

Instanced housing could have been a reality with the resources poured into the Island.

[Imora]

I'd wager more people would enjoy housing than I enjoy island mammetville.

[Vahlnir]

I'd wager more people would enjoy housing than I enjoy island mammetville.

Our islands share the housing instance servers, so I think it would only make sense to combine the two now. House on the island. Bam, instanced housing. Problem solved.