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    Please add guest access settings from Island Sanctuary to housing

    Hi there,

    when I got into housing I noticed quickly how odd the guest access settings are. You can either lock everyone out or open the doors for everyone. There is no option (at least none I am aware of) for making sure only people you know and would like to have around enter your building. Apart from opening the access when they're outside, let them enter and closing access again or so, which requires your presence, of course. Which is fine for a party but a bit strange for some sort of hangout for friends.
    Considering you don't have an option to kick out troublemakers and would have to wait for them to leave on their own, log off or join a duty, having no option whatsoever for limiting the access of your place to specific people this can become a real problem.

    I thought there might be some technical restrictions or so that might prevent this or so. However, now we got Island Sanctuary and its guest access settings are really great. Of course, Island Sanctuary and houses/appartments/FC rooms are not at all the same, but both are personal areas you can open and close for others, so I suppose there are some similarities on the technical end of things.

    So please, dear devs, add the option from Island Sanctuary to housing! Give us a possibility to choose between "party", "friends", "FC" and "everyone" or so as guest access settings as well!

    And while we're at it, please add similar options to interactions with food housing items (and NPC vendors) like suggested in this thread:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ns-to-eat-food.

    Thanks for reading
    Minali
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    Last edited by Minali; 08-28-2022 at 09:13 PM. Reason: english hard

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    Agree. It would be nice to have this feature limiting entry available for housing as well now that we know SE can do it for instances.
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    Ah, the days of UO and the simplicity of Remove thyself and I ban thee.... an over 20 year old system that works. No reason why we can't have it here too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    ...Remove thyself and I ban thee...
    Having played other games with similar granular control, those two options would be so amazing to have.

    Having a "ban" list and those listed people can't step foot inside the gate and a "kick" command and those people are booted out to whence they came.
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    I was actually kind of amazed that housing permissions were all or nothing. There's a lot of people around here that don't understand why housing permissions are a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Having played other games with similar granular control, those two options would be so amazing to have.

    Having a "ban" list and those listed people can't step foot inside the gate and a "kick" command and those people are booted out to whence they came.
    Absolutely. It would feel like it was really "your home". You can yell, "get off my lawn!" and actually be able to do something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    Absolutely. It would feel like it was really "your home". You can yell, "get off my lawn!" and actually be able to do something about it.
    I know you used it as a figure of speech, but I wonder if keeping people off your lawn would be possible as well. Probably not because the garden is not an own "room". But then again, this is a thread with a suggestion, an idea, the "how" is someone else's concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    I know you used it as a figure of speech, but I wonder if keeping people off your lawn would be possible as well. Probably not because the garden is not an own "room". But then again, this is a thread with a suggestion, an idea, the "how" is someone else's concern.
    It's not possible because the outdoor area isn't a separate instance, it's part of the ward.
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    I think it would be cool! Bloody spaghetti code tho.. Hope they fix that in 7.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's not possible because the outdoor area isn't a separate instance, it's part of the ward.
    From a systems POV this doesn't matter if the system has a decent architecture as a foundation. Although we know FF 's design is done by a hungover kindergartener after a nights binge drinking sake and XO cocktails, but despite this can we please dream, eh? Is that ok?

    It is quite possible with a decent design, and there are games with pretty much the same as shared ward housing that prove it (albeit with a lot more flexibility than the puddle of toddler puke we need to deal with as "housing"). All that it would need is for SE to want to do it and expend the money and staff to backfit it. And if not, then the ideas can be maybe one day put into an instanced system.

    Because - along with the braindead one sided defriending system we have been lumbered with (under the excuse that we shouldn't hurt people's feelings by defriending them FFS) - this game is the absolute pits for systems against harassment and really does need an overhaul on friends list and house/island access.
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