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  1. #41
    Player
    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Outdated or not, it doesn't matter at this point.
    Til today I still do positionals and I don't care what anyone said.
    I even do positionals in Shroud mode when I play Rpr.
    You do you, I do mine. It's not effect anyone in anyway.

    Also, There is no need for the dev. thinking of positionals when they're designing the mechanics.
    The players will get around that on their own.
    (4)

  2. #42
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I think having more boss mechanics that creates positionals (e.g. Ravana blocking damage from certain angles) would be more interesting
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  3. #43
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
    World
    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I still love positionals and I'd be sad to see them gone completely. Monk stripped of so many is one of the reasons I went from liking monk to completely refusing to touch it now.
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  4. #44
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    Character
    Aelin Ashriver
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 98
    I like them and I miss my monk having loads of them. If you don't wanna do positionals there are plenty jobs without them.
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  5. #45
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    If you don't like positionals, don't play melee. Problem solved.
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  6. #46
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    Iyrnthota's Avatar
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    Iyrnthota Sparrow
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Perhaps a related question I've been thinking about. Are they necessary?
    Not to exist, but to clear content.

    Like obviously in normals, they're absolutely not required. I haven't taken any of my melees into anything extreme and above, but I'm curious if a team that completely ignored them would still do enough to clear.
    Extremes I imagine would be doable. Probably even a lot savage. Maybe not week 1.
    (1)

  7. #47
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by flowerfairy View Post
    I don't like how positionals are implemented now. There's only two moves with them and you have to hit them or you lose out on a lot of potency. I liked how MNK used to have them because positionals were more of something you look to do for optimizing your damage, you didn't lose out on so much if you missed a couple. Also 2 true north stacks + riddle of earth covered a lot, if a boss spins around too much just give them no positionals like P2S.
    So because people need to OCD their positionals the solution is to take then away and make jobs more boring? And you definitely don't loose a lot of potency on a skill by skill basis. If anything, it's a nice compromise between ignoring them and wanting to optimise.
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  8. #48
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    Character
    Arya Diavolos
    World
    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    I'mma keep it 100, auto-attacking is a crutch mechanic that serves no purpose save for enabling afk players to click on an enemy then tab out to watch Netflix. I propose we get rid of auto attacks and bake any potential damage into or GCDs.
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  9. #49
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    There is only one positional I care about and that's standing in front of the boss.
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  10. #50
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    Character
    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by flowerfairy View Post
    I don't like how positionals are implemented now. There's only two moves with them and you have to hit them or you lose out on a lot of potency. I liked how MNK used to have them because positionals were more of something you look to do for optimizing your damage, you didn't lose out on so much if you missed a couple. Also 2 true north stacks + riddle of earth covered a lot, if a boss spins around too much just give them no positionals like P2S.
    i'm questioning if you actually played monk because missing monk positionals was a significant damage loss, in fact, the only melee which lost significant damage for missing positionals in Shadowbringers.
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