Are positionals a outdated thing?

[Tigerlilley]

Hmm. I've been a career Monk since 2.0 and have recently swapped to Reaper. I thought about this for a while and I do agree they're outdated. With fights getting more complex mechanics, positionals are just false difficulty on your class now, more than anything. I like Reapers 2 positionals per 30 seconds but Monks can deffo go. It's much less stressful playing a ranged job, that's for sure.

[Raoabolic]

Personally, I think MP is an outdated concept as well. Get rid of it and give us a set amount of charges. :^)

[Tigerlilley]

Personally, I think MP is an outdated concept as well. Get rid of it and give us a set amount of charges. :^)

I do agree with this also on summoner. I also think Black Mage needs a raise, lore be damned. No one wants to prog with a blm.

[BaconBits]

Let's be real, HP is an outdated mechanic. I say we should move to a three strike system where failure to follow mechanics three consecutive times just kills you outright. :^)

[Jin-]

Never liked them. Just a busy work with a tiny benefits

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Never liked them. Just a busy work with a tiny benefits

I think this best describes it. POS are not fun.

[NekoMataMata]

I like them and I feel like they're pretty fair too. Casual players don't really need to hit them most of the time. It gives you something to aim for though.

[Amenara]

To me, they are a relic from 1.0 and I couldn't care less if they kept or removed them at this point. They add a bit of optimization to melee and a little difficulty which is usually a good thing, however, I don't think they add enough difficulty to justify staying if SE wanted to remove them.

[Atelier-Bagur]

To me, they are a relic from 1.0 and I couldn't care less if they kept or removed them at this point. They add a bit of optimization to melee and a little difficulty which is usually a good thing, however, I don't think they add enough difficulty to justify staying if SE wanted to remove them.

I would like to say its not even the end of the world if you decide to just ignore positionals if you dont feel like it. At least in regular content, although even when I did savage fights as a monk + reaper, I just stayed with the group and hit True North to get my damage bonus anyway.

However Im no damage or parse expert so I'm sure the constant damage boosts for nailing every positional on queue with your rotation adds up; but I like to focus more on watching out mechanics than get greedy with trying to hit the sweet spots.

[Dzian]

I haven't seen the video but positionals should have been scrapped years ago.They do nothing at all and really don't feel rewarding to hit. I and several others did the math on this way back in storm blood one such thread as an example

To take ninja as a quick example If they just stayed behind the boss and really didn't care about positionals you would never notice.. they'd lose 60 potency every ~30 seconds on their armor crush. which works out at a whopping total of 2 whole potency per second, this is something like 0.5% damage... Which is immeasurable as a variance that small would easily fall under the margin of error allowed for crits, directs or even a tiny fluctuation in latency As a result, there's no impact to them so should be scrapped entirely. Plus with more and more boss encounters not requiring them anyway the impact they carry is even less.

To me, they are a relic from 1.0 and I couldn't care less if they kept or removed them at this point. They add a bit of optimization to melee and a little difficulty which is usually a good thing, however, I don't think they add enough difficulty to justify staying if SE wanted to remove them.

They're not even a relic from 1.0. In 1.0 the positional requirements were on the first skills of a combo not the last and they carried impact as a result. Hitting a positional allowed you to combo. Missing a positional wouldn't.

Hell even tanks had them and it was pretty satisfying to successfully find that right moment to duck behind a boss land a hit to open up a higher damage combo and get back in front of the boss without turning it and ruining everyone else's combos.. That's real reward, real impact.

ARR+ they're just weightless and pointless. and should have been axed years ago.. i would say take them back to the 1.23 system but we all the devs run a million miles from complex or actual rewarding gameplay.