Are positionals a outdated thing?

[Brownondorf]

i do feel like they are 100% outdated and they should get rid of them.
I've been a melee main since ARR:
Dragoon in ARR
Monk in HW
Samurai since StB
And i'm tired of the positionals honestly. Such an outdaded mechanic
It was such a blessing to not have to do positionals in content like Eureka and Bozja and i loves bosses that don't have them too.

[Asari5]

i love positionals. its a shame they nerfed this mechanic again and again over time. i think it would be fine to create a new melee without positionals. but honestly? ranged jobs appear boring to me because they just stand there and dont have to move... well, except for blm of course

i would hate if they removed positionals from dragoon

[Kaurhz]

They should be tossed in the bin and replaced with something that actually has a modicum of proper engagement factor.

[BaconBits]

They should be tossed in the bin and replaced with something that actually has a modicum of proper engagement factor.

You know this won't happen. Or are you going to tell me Healers became more engaging after getting violently gutted in Shadowbringers?

Where's my assortment of dots at and Bane to spread them Kaurhz, what happened to Shadow Flare and Quickened Aetherflow, why can I no longer sic my Fairy on to specific targets instead of her haphazardly healing anything with a pulse regardless of whether they actually need healing, why is Selene a glorified reskin, where are they?

I'll tell you where, they're gone. They've been gone for nearly three years and if SE has their way, they'll be gone for even longer. Hell maybe they'll get rid of the one measly dot Healers have in favor of adding even more superfluous off global heals that aren't even needed in the vast majority of content. You thought you were tired of hearing 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, get ready for 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 repeated ad nauseum.

The fact anyone advocates for the removal of mechanics knowing this team's track record is beyond me. If melees get positionals taken away, you better believe you won't get anything substantial to replace it, mark my words.

[Neoyoshi]

#BringBackAllThePositionals #MakeFFXIVOnlineHardAgain

I'm kidding of course, but please bring back all the positionals. <3

[Kaurhz]

You know this won't happen. Or are you going to tell me Healers became more engaging after getting violently gutted in Shadowbringers?

Where's my assortment of dots at and Bane to spread them Kaurhz, what happened to Shadow Flare and Quickened Aetherflow, why can I no longer sic my Fairy on to specific targets instead of her haphazardly healing anything with a pulse regardless of whether they actually need healing, why is Selene a glorified reskin, where are they?

I'll tell you where, they're gone. They've been gone for nearly three years and if SE has their way, they'll be gone for even longer. Hell maybe they'll get rid of the one measly dot Healers have in favor of adding even more superfluous off global heals that aren't even needed in the vast majority of content. You thought you were tired of hearing 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, get ready for 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 repeated ad nauseum.

The fact anyone advocates for the removal of mechanics knowing this team's track record is beyond me. If melees get positionals taken away, you better believe you won't get anything substantial to replace it, mark my words.

I said they Should not that they Would. Similarly, all facets of the game Should be more engaging, including healers, doesn't mean they Would. But I think if we are to both be frank we know that positional requirements will be steadily on the decline until they do eventually remove them.

I advocate for it simply because I view it as an outdated mechanic.

[Xaphire]

if encounter design was still the way it was in ARR I'd say keep positional attacks. The way they design encounters now though they're kind of clunky. I'd be okay with them being removed because there are other things to pay attention to in fights now.

[Avoidy]

You can tell that Square is low-key phasing positionals out anyway, because they keep adding these no-positional encounters to the game while giving melee players more charges of true north and eliminating positional requirements in certain skills/kits. In 7.0 we'll probably have a third charge of true north, one actual positional skill worth worrying about where landing it does a .5% damage increase so most people don't even bother, and several new bosses that have no positionals anyway, or they'll flip around on a dime and screw it up so much that people will stop caring.

[george357]

well you can keep crying about this and hope one day they hear you and remove it but don't hold your breath waiting

[Ronduwil]

I was watching Xenosys and I been agreeing in that positionals are at this point just dumb and a archaic system. Should they just finally get rid of positionals once and for all?

I would be less annoyed with them if every boss mechanic past ARR didn't already require you to run all over the place for 75% of the fight. For tank and spank fights where you're parked in place the entire time, positionals add a little challenge and activity to an otherwise dull fight. For most modern day bosses, however, they're just a sense of frustration.