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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Dumb things about Tanks, Spells.
    Only effects dark Knight and Paladin, but all skills should be weaponskills and not spells.
    Either that, or a passive trait that equalizes their Skill- and Spellspeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Either that, or a passive trait that equalizes their Skill- and Spellspeed.
    ...or merging both stats into just Speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    ...or merging both stats into just Speed.
    Or that, whichever is easier for them to implement.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Or that, whichever is easier for them to implement.
    Year 4 of asking them to consolidate this god damn stat already.
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    Considering some of their decisions, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they actually do think we're stacking Tenacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Considering some of their decisions, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they actually do think we're stacking Tenacity.
    Me and a friend of mine generally stack tenacity as we preferred survivability over raw damage for the last few xpacs. I'm slowly moving away from that bit by bit, but it really is jarring the moments I take next to no damage regardless of mitigation and suddenly melt like a wet tissue even with mitigation in similar situations.

    No, I'm not a high end content person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xAFROx View Post
    Me and a friend of mine generally stack tenacity as we preferred survivability over raw damage for the last few xpacs. I'm slowly moving away from that bit by bit, but it really is jarring the moments I take next to no damage regardless of mitigation and suddenly melt like a wet tissue even with mitigation in similar situations.

    No, I'm not a high end content person.
    That's simply down to different tank busters hitting for different amounts of damage on top of damage being able to roll high or low within a certain range.

    Tenacity rarely has much of an influence on your survival due to how much you'd have to stack to get any noticeable mitigation out of it. The question is basically, how often did you survive a mechanic with maybe 5% hp remaining? If your answer is very rarely or never then you might as well just stack a stat that gives you more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xAFROx View Post
    Me and a friend of mine generally stack tenacity as we preferred survivability over raw damage for the last few xpacs. I'm slowly moving away from that bit by bit, but it really is jarring the moments I take next to no damage regardless of mitigation and suddenly melt like a wet tissue even with mitigation in similar situations.

    No, I'm not a high end content person.
    Not gonna lie. I wish Tenacity was at least comparable to its competitor stats. There's really no shame in stacking it if you're not planning to do endgame content, but it'd be kinda nice if it was at least properly viable (or maybe even preferable) for endgame content so I'd have an excuse to use it for more than memeing normals.

    I used to build Tenacity sets once my main sets were done just so I could pull them out in dungeons for the lulz. Had a few times where healers genuinely got annoyed because they weren't even necessary outside of the occasional DPS standing in derp.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 09-07-2022 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That's simply down to different tank busters hitting for different amounts of damage on top of damage being able to roll high or low within a certain range.

    Tenacity rarely has much of an influence on your survival due to how much you'd have to stack to get any noticeable mitigation out of it. The question is basically, how often did you survive a mechanic with maybe 5% hp remaining? If your answer is very rarely or never then you might as well just stack a stat that gives you more damage.
    I guess? Hard to say when both stormblood and Shadowbringers, once I got to cap, I hardly ever fell below 95% in most normal content. Not sure how my friend fared, I know he's tanked ex at some point before he had to work more. He does point out how often healers sling him praise or surprise at how little damage he takes, so idk.

    I hardly play often enough to engage like that these days. Burn out suuuucks.
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    Elord O'gnid
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    I will never understand why PLD players care so religiously much about their veil not proccing on them.
    I'd like to know one situation in wich a dps / healer would survive a mechanic and a tank wouldn't.
    More defense, more hp, 20% natural mitigation.

    Genuinly : it doesn't make any logical sense why pld convinced themselve of a problem that is, in reality, not one at all
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