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    Edweena Ermagherd
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    Samurai Lv 90
    6.2 was extra frustrating for me as someone who waited to come back hoping that anything would be said about Samurai's 6.1 decisions, only to come back to find that everything has been ignored.
    They even fixed bloat for Astro, despite it being stated for a "rework". Nvm Dragoon's feedback being acknowledged as well, it just feels so neglectful towards Samurai.
    They couldn't spare anything for Samurai? We have similar issues to Minor Arcana / Crown Play (formerly) being seperate buttons, why can't they do the same for Samurai when it was called for?
    Or anything for that matter? It's not too much to ask when other jobs receive these changes for problems they ALSO introduced in Endwalker.

    Like holy fuck the solution exists, other jobs have fixed these problems (Dancer's Tillana from Technical Step can be directly compared to the Ikishoten / Ogi Namikiri issue, one of MANY I've listed with solutions found in OTHER jobs)
    If they even maybe just communicated sorry we're really busy with the reworks for Dragoon and Astro, or any measure of transparency, 6.2 wouldn't feel like such a slap in the face.
    We're still worse off from 6.0, where we were given a good idea for how Samurai was going to play, and now 2 patch cycles in we have no word on any sort of future (don't worry this will replace kaiten, they say 5 patches later), any communication, or at least a fucking roadmap of some kind.
    Seriously what the fuck? I'm irritated at how amateur the direction of Samurai has been with 6.1, everything has been handled so poorly EVEN IF Kaiten was too restrictive to design / balancing which were NOT the stated reasons.

    Sorry, this is a lot of pent up feelings since I took a break hoping 6.2 would provide some sort of answer or remedy
    Nvm my only course of action is to quit the job hoping that will at least alert the devs to what these changes did (they absolutely didn't bring in new players).
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    Last edited by Edweena; 08-26-2022 at 10:02 PM.

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    Naomi Vargulaine
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    Ever since Kaiten was removed, Samurai felt absolutely abysmal. Shinten simply isn't a very satisfying button to press and the whole kenki gauge is redundant at this point. Midare and Ogi hit like a wet noodle now. It's kind of weird to see how this class went from having excel spreadsheets for each encounter in ShB to becoming this snoozefest of a class. 6.0 dumbed the class down, but I felt like it was perfect, it got some much needed QoL changes and was still relatively high APM, but now it's garbo. I am not surprised that SE didn't take any of the criticism... the english forums might not even exist... as long as it's not a problem on JP, it's not a problem at all. Glad I dropped the class in 6.1, sad that it probably will stay that way for the foreseeable future
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naomishtola View Post
    Ever since Kaiten was removed, Samurai felt absolutely abysmal. Shinten simply isn't a very satisfying button to press and the whole kenki gauge is redundant at this point. Midare and Ogi hit like a wet noodle now. It's kind of weird to see how this class went from having excel spreadsheets for each encounter in ShB to becoming this snoozefest of a class. 6.0 dumbed the class down, but I felt like it was perfect, it got some much needed QoL changes and was still relatively high APM, but now it's garbo. I am not surprised that SE didn't take any of the criticism... the english forums might not even exist... as long as it's not a problem on JP, it's not a problem at all. Glad I dropped the class in 6.1, sad that it probably will stay that way for the foreseeable future
    JP players are actually just as pissed off as everyone else about kaiten.
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    Naomi Vargulaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    JP players are actually just as pissed off as everyone else about kaiten.
    Damn, well in that case I have no hope left. RIP 6.0 Samurai, you will be missed
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    I'm sure the feedback was acknowledged but is just going to get ignored because it may very well become another WoW where the devs are making their game how they want to and you are only allowed to play it.
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I don’t know what’s laughable or cringier than seeing the lot of you with ongoing SAM/Kaiten Spams.

    Understandable the job is still present & kaiten is no more, now move on.
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    Acece Ace
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    Samurai Lv 90
    As a healer main going into shb and then a sam main going into endwalker, and now a blm/rdm main. Realizing that it's a hopeless endeavor trying to change the minds of the devs not only saves a lot of time from typing out your experiences and ideas but also your enjoyment of this game suffering playing the job that you don't enjoy anymore. Thankfully for dps there are a couple still enjoyable jobs (rip healers) so I would recommend playing those jobs.
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    Rekun Elakha
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Acece View Post
    As a healer main going into shb and then a sam main going into endwalker, and now a blm/rdm main. Realizing that it's a hopeless endeavor trying to change the minds of the devs not only saves a lot of time from typing out your experiences and ideas but also your enjoyment of this game suffering playing the job that you don't enjoy anymore. Thankfully for dps there are a couple still enjoyable jobs (rip healers) so I would recommend playing those jobs.
    It's unfortunate because I really want to play Samurai. Nothing quite has the same feel as 6.0 Samurai. I'm not getting my hopes up but I pray they make changes to offset the loss of Kenki management with something that isn't terrible.
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acece View Post
    As a healer main going into shb and then a sam main going into endwalker, and now a blm/rdm main. Realizing that it's a hopeless endeavor trying to change the minds of the devs not only saves a lot of time from typing out your experiences and ideas but also your enjoyment of this game suffering playing the job that you don't enjoy anymore. Thankfully for dps there are a couple still enjoyable jobs (rip healers) so I would recommend playing those jobs.
    Sounds like you’re making SAM/Kaiten a martyr christened memoir,

    The changes are already present & it is not dead. Move on
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    Acece Ace
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Sounds like you’re making SAM/Kaiten a martyr christened memoir,

    The changes are already present & it is not dead. Move on
    I don't really what you're saying but I did say to play other jobs, I said In my post I'm playing blm and rdm lol. I've give up trying.
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