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  1. #181
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    The only reason I do the high end content is the reward. Which makes you exactly right. And that is unlikely to change. Failure and wiping for hours on end with no reward is nothing less than a complete waste of time, wiping on a phase I have already cleared is wasted time and spending hours in the PF just to get a weekly clear of content I have already cleared is a waste of time. I don't enjoy this difficulty of content for it's own sake, it feels like a job, a job I hate doing, I enjoy the rewards once I obtain them. Having slogged my way through p2s for 6 weeks in the PF on Crystal last patch I can say that unless the rewards are something I absolutely must have then I'm not engaging with that difficulty of content anymore. Seph Unreal is easily on par with p2s from my experience, if not worse. I did Seph with people significantly more skilled than me and we couldn't even come close to clearing it in 4h of wiping, we barely made to Storm of Word (or w/e it's called) 2 times. I at least saw enrage after 4 or 5h of prog in p2s. Trying to do Seph Unreal in the PF is going to absolute hell.
    Then don't do it. The content is optional, and the rewards can be obtained through other means. The rewards for Unreal content are actually pretty lackluster considering the difficulty of some of the fights, and then tying the currency rewarded to the results of another mini game. In my eyes, I don't know why anyone would do Unreal content other than the difficulty. The difficulty is also the idea behind the entire content. This content was implemented specifically for players looking for a little more challenge. Honestly, fights on the scale of UW really should be avoided in the future.

    You also say you want something a little more in the middle. Guess what? Sephirot Unreal is exactly that. Others have stated that he is not upper floor savage difficulty. Certainly not Ultimate difficulty. But yeah, he is definitely more difficult than UW Unreal. Without question. But if you're just going to fold up and give in when the content isn't even a week old yet, then you might want to stick to the casual content. It doesn't really sound like you want to do harder content. UW Unreal is on the scale of a slightly more difficult NM raid. IOW, players can derp like crazy in this fight and still clear it. Again, this is not the intent behind EX/Unreal content.

    I don't need to be humbled, I already assume I'm the anchor dragging everyone else down in this difficulty ofcontent. I want something at a difficulty level that doesn't make me mentally exhausted and feel like **** even when I do manage to clear it, because all I have to look forward to is slogging through it again next week. Conversly I'm bored of Normal/Expert within a few weeks of sleepwalking through it. The previous Unreal was at a level that at least let me feel basic confidence in my ability to clear it, unlike Sav. Now I don't even have that. Savage always felt like I was barely grasping at the edge of a ledge and about to fall no matter how many times I did it.
    No one needing to be humbled will admit to needing to be humbled. It doesn't make it any less true. I get it. UW was 'just right' in terms of the difficulty you're looking for. Self-depreciating by convincing yourself that you're the weak link isn't going to help your confidence level. If it is any consolation, previous EX fights can still provide a challenge level similar to UW. There will also be Unreal trials released in the future that won't be as difficult as Sephirot. So perhaps sit this round out, and see what comes around next patch.
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    Be happy they have not gotten the idea to do a Unreal version of Living liquid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Be happy they have not gotten the idea to do a Unreal version of Living liquid.
    Now they have. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Now they have. Thank you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdasbLKm4s0
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Be happy they have not gotten the idea to do a Unreal version of Living liquid.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlHxAzLXA
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    I'm going to assume you never did EX during 2.0 & 3.0.


    Unreal, as far as I recall was supposed to be a "faithful' recreation of the original fight just tuned to current maximum level.
    If he's doing a number on groups then it's indeed a faithful recreation.



    If it's too hard and you don't have fun I'd advise you to run normal content, if you find that to be too dull then maybe try the 4.0 and/or 5.0 ex with minimum ilvl enabled so you still have to pay attention to mechanics. Those ex are easier then the 3.0 are.
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    It's Sephirot Unreal. That description alone should have been enough to tell anyone paying attention what kind of meat grinder they're stepping into and send them screaming for the hills. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    It's Sephirot Unreal. That description alone should have been enough to tell anyone paying attention what kind of meat grinder they're stepping into and send them screaming for the hills. XD
    People truly don’t realise how much easier the game has gotten so they imagine sephirot and think “zodiark”

    Trying to explain to people that current ultimate is roughly old savage just a bit longer and they lose their minds
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?
    you have the whole ass game that bends over backwards, why cant I have more content that doesnt treat me like a toddler grow up jesus its a EX fight not a cakewalk
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  10. #190
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    i like the new unreal, i got to relive my heavensward raiding days
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