New Unreal is a an all around miserable experience.

[Novae]

Give EX4 a try instead of wasting your time on this. It's a really fun fight, not that hard either.

[AwesomeJr44]

I'm willing to concede Ultimate Weapon may have been under-tuned

Unreal was the one piece of high end content I could do reliably on a weekly basis without wanting to smash my head against my desk.

You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?

We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage.

I get the feeling that you're actually not ready for EX/Unreal and only could do Ultima because of how stupid easy it was. Ultima was a VERY easy unreal/extreme. You've gotten used to a very easy trial and are upset that unreal isn't normally that easy.

[HyoMinPark]

You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?

Unreal is supposed to be harder than (current) Extreme and up there with (current) early tier Savage. If you can’t handle it, there’s about 3938272738382 other things in this game catered to an easier playstyle.

The Extremes these days are laughable compared to the older ones. That Sephirot Unreal is truly difficult is just a testament to how difficult he was back in HW. And how much easier the Extremes have become since. He was hard at level 60. Stands to reason he should remain so at level 90.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Unreal is supposed to be harder than Extreme and up there with Savage. If you can’t handle it, there’s about 3938272738382 other things in this game catered to an easier playstyle.

The Extremes these days are laughable compared to the older ones. That Sephirot Unreal is truly difficult is just a testament to how difficult he was back in HW. And how much easier the Extremes have become.

On the other hand, a lot of older extremes were also super easy. Bismarck, ravana, etc.

You could burn ravana before phase change in 240 gear. Did it at fanfest lol

[ForteNightshade]

No, because there isn't anything between braindead 1-shot clears (Expert, Normal raids) and miserably hours long wipefests with minimal chance of success. Like I said, last Unreal I could at least make the assumption that if I had 45 minutes to set aside I could get 2 clears for the weekly reward. There is no way that's happening this time.

Because Ultima was never an EX fight. They essentially beefed up a hard made back in ARR. Hence why it never got the Extreme moniker. Sephirot, on the other hand, is how Extreme fights used to be. Granted, he's arguably the hardest ever released before we saw a gradual decline to what EXs are now: chump fights for the most part. If you've done Unreal since it released, Sephirot isn't that much harder than Titan or Leviathan were in PF. People are simply too used to the faceroll of Ultima.

[HyoMinPark]

On the other hand, a lot of older extremes were also super easy. Bismarck, ravana, etc.

You could burn ravana before phase change in 240 gear. Did it at fanfest lol

I’ll give you Bismarck, but Ravana wasn’t being done with non-standard comps when he was relevant. Unlike Zodiark and Hydaelyn when they came out. EXs these days are laughable compared to Thordan, Sephirot, and Nidhogg. Even Zurvan tortured PFs more than those two, and he was actually incredibly simple.

[Naizakane]

I have no complaints about the fight itself -it's a very fun experience, even when I get the orange debuff as melee. My only problem with it is that the faux leaf gain didn't get bumped up. Sephirot is definitely a tougher unreal than Ultima, so it feels a little bad to get the same amount of leaves that Ultima would have got me.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Because Ultima was never an EX fight. They essentially beefed up a hard made back in ARR. Hence why it never got the Extreme moniker. Sephirot, on the other hand, is how Extreme fights used to be. Granted, he's arguably the hardest ever released before we saw a gradual decline to what EXs are now: chump fights for the most part. If you've done Unreal since it released, Sephirot isn't that much harder than Titan or Leviathan were in PF. People are simply too used to the faceroll of Ultima.

He was a minstrels ballad fight, a moniker given to most story "extremes"

[Issaella]

Give EX4 a try instead of wasting your time on this. It's a really fun fight, not that hard either.

The weapons are all ugly imo, so I really have no reason to do it. The only thing that motivates me to do higher end content is the reward. If the lure of the reward falls behind the amount of frustration/misery it takes to get it through prog then there is no reason for me to do it. I should have learned my lesson PFing Savage last tier, but I expected than Unreal would be doable like last patch. It was painfully obv that would not be the case after about 90 min of prog last night, but I kept it up out of a sense of duty and sunk cost fallacy. Not making that mistake again. I'll take my 4h of misery and wash my hands of it. I'm tired of doing high end content in this game just to feel awful even if I do manage to clear it.

[BaconBits]

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