Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 46

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Puremallace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    Eorzea!
    Posts
    847
    Character
    Pure Mallace
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100

    Island Sanctuary should be 61+ feature

    So it is pretty obvious the only limitation of Island Sanctuaries is the server space it takes to run the system and cost associated with it.

    It is a lvl 1 quest in Sharlayan that sends you to Moraby Drydocks. Either they are beta testing the system on end game players with the expectation of expanding it or they just could not think of a better place.

    I think the best option would be to put it in Ishgard as a lvl 61 quest. This solves the issue of a bunch of f2p players taking up server space and brings it lower in level enough to give everyone the ability to access it.

    In the long term forcing people to do what will end up being 400+ hours of MSQ just to access Islands after 6.0 Endwalker is pretty extreme for new people.
    (3)

  2. #2
    Player
    GeminiReed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Posts
    506
    Character
    Alys Isshu
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    I think the best option would be to put it in Ishgard as a lvl 61 quest. This solves the issue of a bunch of f2p players taking up server space and brings it lower in level enough to give everyone the ability to access it.
    They already have the ability to gate features by expansion license. Can't be expansion races (Au Ra, Viera, Hrothgar) or use expansion jobs (SAM, RDM, etc.) without having the appropriate expansion tied to your account.

    IMO unlocking it once you've completed ARR should be 'good enough' as long as you've registered EW particularly since you can completely solo the MSQ to that point thanks to Duty Support.
    (6)

  3. #3
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Posts
    2,724
    Character
    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    The quests are already written out and everything is set. The island's availability doesn't make sense earlier in the story. You'll get there before you know it.
    (19)

  4. #4
    Player
    Opinionated's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2022
    Posts
    13
    Character
    Nenemu Nemu
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post

    In the long term forcing people to do what will end up being 400+ hours of MSQ just to access Islands after 6.0 Endwalker is pretty extreme for new people.
    Isnt this the most common arguement against locking "more important" content such as raids and trials/dungeons behind the MSQ? (More important as in these are selling points in the MMO marketplace and FF14s competitors offer them too.)
    Anyways, why does it have to be for new people? Why is it so insulting to you people that a new patch introduced post-expansion content? Why cant the new people do, I dont know.. the 400 hours of content you mentioned in your post? Why is island sanctuary something they absolutely must have early on?

    New expansion = New content for people who have it. This is not a new concept.
    (19)

  5. #5
    Player
    Raoabolic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Bastok
    Posts
    2,119
    Character
    Raogrimm Ironfist
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Opinionated View Post
    Isnt this the most common arguement against locking "more important" content such as raids and trials/dungeons behind the MSQ? (More important as in these are selling points in the MMO marketplace and FF14s competitors offer them too.)
    Anyways, why does it have to be for new people? Why is it so insulting to you people that a new patch introduced post-expansion content? Why cant the new people do, I dont know.. the 400 hours of content you mentioned in your post? Why is island sanctuary something they absolutely must have early on?

    New expansion = New content for people who have it. This is not a new concept.
    *waves story skip potion for only [INSERT CURRENCY HERE]*
    Eh? It's not a lot and it will get you closer to your amazing island that totally isn't full of timegates. :^)
    (5)

  6. #6
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    4,620
    Character
    Seraphor Vhinasch
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It earns you endgame level gear (e.g. grade IX and X materia)
    It's basically this expansions version of the Doman Reconstruction or Isgard Reconstruction and new Diadem.
    Its locked behind the MSQ because it's current content.
    It's that simple, there's nothing else to read into here.
    (20)

  7. #7
    Player

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    1,682
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Its locked behind the MSQ because it's current content.
    It's that simple, there's nothing else to read into here.
    Quoted for emphasis and agreement.
    (10)

  8. #8
    Player
    Irenia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    244
    Character
    Irenia Ataska
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    To be fair, Palace of the Dead was current content on release, and It did not require level 60 to get started. The fact that it gave access to level 60 stuff didn't matter.

    Then again, it was back in Heavensward, and Heaven on High is expansion locked, so maybe they've moved on from making content that is useful for people both in current content at time of release and still catching up.
    (2)

  9. #9
    Player
    Striker44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2022
    Location
    Uldah
    Posts
    1,141
    Character
    Elmind Exilus
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Irenia View Post
    To be fair, Palace of the Dead was current content on release, and It did not require level 60 to get started. The fact that it gave access to level 60 stuff didn't matter.

    Then again, it was back in Heavensward, and Heaven on High is expansion locked, so maybe they've moved on from making content that is useful for people both in current content at time of release and still catching up.
    But PotD was designed for the purpose of leveling alt jobs, so it makes sense that it would be available early on. Lorewise, it also needs only a minimal amount of progression that has likely already occurred by the time you reach the entrance for PotD anyway.

    Island Sanctuaries are designed as endgame content providing endgame rewards. It doesn't make sense for that to be available at earlier levels.
    (2)

  10. #10
    Player
    GeminiReed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Posts
    506
    Character
    Alys Isshu
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The quests are already written out and everything is set. The island's availability doesn't make sense earlier in the story. You'll get there before you know it.
    B-but muh lore is one of the worst reasons to gate content especially when a studio uses homegrown IP. They have the ultimate flexibility to change things so nope, not an excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It earns you endgame level gear (e.g. grade IX and X materia)
    At this point I've got so much Arksadora Tribal currency I'm probably set until 7.0. If EW is anything like ShB you're absolutely flooded with materia.

    It got so bad I'd just sell off the discretes (eg. Savage Aim VIII) and keep stacks of the current Cracked Whatsitclusters. Again this is something the studio has complete control over. Don't want new people to get materia they can't get yet? Switch it to something based on their current MSQ progression or just flat out don't offer it.
    (4)

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast