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    "Server Too Full" Error booting people mid-duty

    It seems SE in their infinite wisdom have decided to start forcibly removing people from game for server being too congested. Except that its kicking people out while IN DUTY so not only does that person get booted with no warning but also the rest of the raid/dungeon runners suffer because they are down a man.
    THIS IS REDICULOUS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    It seems SE in their infinite wisdom have decided to start forcibly removing people from game for server being too congested. Except that its kicking people out while IN DUTY so not only does that person get booted with no warning but also the rest of the raid/dungeon runners suffer because they are down a man.
    THIS IS REDICULOUS
    I am betting the island sanctuaries are running on the same instance servers as dungeons/trials/raids etc. I think I saw they were having problems with that the day of release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I am betting the island sanctuaries are running on the same instance servers as dungeons/trials/raids etc. I think I saw they were having problems with that the day of release.
    All instanced content runs on the instance servers.

    Lots of folks saw this coming.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    All instanced content runs on the instance servers.

    Lots of folks saw this coming.
    And THIS is why Housing CANNOT be instanced.

    Having an RP event or the massive Island Sanctuary demand will affect everyone, starting from FC members trying to enter their fc company/workshop, to raiders doing their prog and people on roulettes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    And THIS is why Housing CANNOT be instanced.

    Having an RP event or the massive Island Sanctuary demand will affect everyone, starting from FC members trying to enter their fc company/workshop, to raiders doing their prog and people on roulettes..
    If anything it proves that they can give everyone their own instanced home. They've effectively given everyone access to their own personal instance that only gets loaded when they're in said instance, which is hardly different to if everyone had their own instanced house that was loaded up when they were in it.

    The real issue is server overcrowding, which they're trying to get new server hardware added, and otherwise it's made worse right now because so many people are playing the patch content. Give it a week or two for things to start to calm down and the issue will solve itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    And THIS is why Housing CANNOT be instanced.
    Other MMO's seem to manage it just fine...TESO included which came out around the same time as FFXIV did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Other MMO's seem to manage it just fine...TESO included which came out around the same time as FFXIV did.
    Other MMO's use different engines. TESO lets you block a power swing from a 2-handed steel greatsword by holding a simple wooden bow up in front of it and the greatsword just bounces off...

    Meanwhile, WoW - the most "popular" MMO of all time - doesn't even have housing.

    Point simply being that different MMO's use different tools with different strengths and weaknesses. Just because one game "can" do something doesn't mean every other game must be able to do the same exact thing. I'm content with housing existing in its current form in FFXIV given everything else I really enjoy about the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    And THIS is why Housing CANNOT be instanced.

    Having an RP event or the massive Island Sanctuary demand will affect everyone, starting from FC members trying to enter their fc company/workshop, to raiders doing their prog and people on roulettes..

    You want to tweak that. "This is why SE won't pay to have instance housing." Because they would have to increase the amount of hardware. As proof of concept it seems to works. The only limitation seems to be hardware.



    The question I have is would inside and outside load simultaneously. Removing the loading from entering the house. Maybe removing the restrictions from indoor and outdoor.



    I strongly dislike the sub model and cash shop. But at this point if SE moved instanced housing to a tier of sub. It would let people pay for what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard View Post
    And THIS is why Housing CANNOT be instanced.

    Having an RP event or the massive Island Sanctuary demand will affect everyone, starting from FC members trying to enter their fc company/workshop, to raiders doing their prog and people on roulettes..
    or they COULD add MORE servers PERHAPS?

    we're TALKING about SE not SOME indie COMPANY

    either WAY i TRANSFERED to a NEW server so I GOT my MEDIUM
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    Do you have a screenshot of error message that was displayed by any chance? It seems highly unlikely that only one player would be removed from a duty in progress due to "server full" but not the rest of the party.

    Definitely players who are going AFK in solo instances are getting kicked but there's nothing unusual about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I am betting the island sanctuaries are running on the same instance servers as dungeons/trials/raids etc. I think I saw they were having problems with that the day of release.
    They seem to be hosted on the housing servers. I haven't heard anyone complain about not being able to enter a duty instance but a lot of players are having trouble entering housing and Island Sanctuary instances.
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