Development Team: PLEASE PLAY YOUR OWN PVP

[MonteCristo]

Please take some time and play your own pvp mode before making any more balance updates. If you still think its ok..please put pride to the side and contract out from an experienced pvp development team. At this rate CC will not thrive 6 months from now. There is still time to fix this before interest dissipates and pvp goes back to being completely dead like it has been for years outside of frontline.

[TheSuperior]

Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?

[MonteCristo]

Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?

Majority of Issues are outlined in the many other threads below this thread. However to your point, yoshi p did in fact play blm in cc which ultimately resulted in one of the most ridiculous buffs we've ever seen. That buff alone was very telling in the grander scheme of pvp balance ineptitude.

[Dreadz]

Yoshi P's played CC on stream and grinded rank all the way to Crystal. What are you talking about?

As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.

They're absolute jokers that are completely disconnected from the game mode and seem to base all their decisions around personal preference (BLM) or statistics they take at face value. Hell, it took them four months to make it so DRG couldn't be bind, heavy or half-sleep during their LB, shit like that should've been fixed before launch or on the first patch. Can't forget PLDs still running around abusing cover on Onsal either.

[Nanne]

As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.

AST and SCH were better than WHM. WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function

[Karasio]

AST and SCH were better than WHM. WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function

Bro you are tweaking.

[flowerfairy]

WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function

That's what made WHM extremely valuable for single target bursting though. It has an unpurifiable Pacification every 30 seconds and a laser stun every 60 seconds, how can you add any more to this without being over the top broken?

[Nanne]

That's what made WHM extremely valuable for single target bursting though. It has an unpurifiable Pacification every 30 seconds and a laser stun every 60 seconds, how can you add any more to this without being over the top broken?

Yes WHM's impact is easy to notice but once people cover/heal the Imp player to save them and when people actually spread against your LB what do you do then? The numbers for WHM were really small on all the spells before this patch and other healers did way more things

[RyuDragnier]

AST and SCH were better than WHM. WHM was just a walking Imp every 30s meanwhile other jobs actually had more than 1 function

SCH is absolutely useless if you don't have a team. You can put a 10% HP shield with a damage buff on allies, a 10% damage down with a DoT on enemies, lower enemy healing by 25%, and lower damage taken by 10%. That's it. You can't burst anything, you can't do anything by yourself. You can buff your team and debuff the enemy team, but if your teammates are useless, that's it, you've lost, because there isn't anything more you can do for them. I saw it all the time while climbing up the ranks last Season, where I did everything right but would lose time and time again because my allies were incapable of targeting the same foe, finishing weaker opponents, or aiming at problem players (I saw so many people ignore the casters). SCH could only help if you had decent or good players on your team, and most of the time you did not or did not have enough of them compared to the enemies. The nerf to SCH's support was completely unwarranted.

[Ransu]

As Monte said, that led to BLM being buffed into oblivion before being slightly nerfed again. It's obvious no one on the PvP team actually plays PvP if they're buffing/nerfing jobs based on winrates. Literally nothing about SCH or AST warranted those nerfs, but since they had less but better players than WHM, CBU3 deemed it necessary to nerf them and buff WHM.

They're absolute jokers that are completely disconnected from the game mode and seem to base all their decisions around personal preference (BLM) or statistics they take at face value. Hell, it took them four months to make it so DRG couldn't be bind, heavy or half-sleep during their LB, shit like that should've been fixed before launch or on the first patch. Can't forget PLDs still running around abusing cover on Onsal either.

BLM needed buffs badly. Did they over do it? A little. Was it broken? Not really, but it got nerfs immediately after.

AST is extremely strong, the nerfs were justified.

Balance is a tough act. There's always going to be over buffing and over nerfing. WAR seemed broken at first as well and that led to bloodwhetting getting nerfed which made the job basically a free kill and thus they rebuffed it back to 100%. Every pvp game goes through this stuff and balance will never be perfect.