Removed from Ex4 by Japanese group. Racist.

[Ransom]

Sort of like the "White Man's Burden" philosophy England used to justify expanding the British Empire.

Feeling you are superior isn't correlated with hatred. If it was, I'd hate almost everyone.

On the first thing, that's less a different thing from racism and more an attempted justification for it.

On the second thing... MAYBE. Ina purely hypothetical sense, MAYBE feeling superior doesn't automatically
correspond to hate. Human nature being what it is, though, that's ALWAYS where it eventually leads. To use
your own example about Japan's motivations for the war (which is also inaccurate, the Japanese military used
the ancient Shinto prophecy as their excuse, but it was really about securing natural resources they didn't
have in their own land, without having to pay for them, but for our purposes here I'll use your answer) even
if the Japanese people of that era thought they were helping others, look at how they treated those others:
The second world war Japanese military was as vicious to captured Chinese and Korean people as the Nazis
were to Jewish people (and many others) Seeing other people as inferior is a form of hate. And as Yoda said,
'hate leads to suffering.'

[Johaandr]

Random tho. Why do people say Ex1,2,3,4?????
Is this a new term? I remember people used to say «titan» or «sephi» to indicate stuff

[Padudu]

No they don't.

Go watch "Crazy Rich Asians" twice: once to enjoy it, it's a stellar rom-com, and the second time to study how the main character (MC), who is 100% ethnic Chinese and born in China, is discriminated against by her fiancee's mother -- who is also 100% ethnic Chinese -- because she is a foreigner.

It's not NC's ethnicity that is the problem, it's that MC was raised in America, and the potential mother-in-law thinks that means MC has some stereotypical values that make MC a bad choice of spouse for her son.

Ethnicity may be highly correlated with place-of-origin, but it isn't determined by it.

Bruh. I was raised (mostly) in America, raised by two immigrant parents. I quite literally do not have any Caucasian in me outside the bedroom. I'm Haitian and my dad and I both have the accent. I don't really need a sitcom to conceptualize racism for me, I have experienced it plenty myself lol. I am biracial with Salvadoran descent. I have at least experienced racism from all sides of the coin at some point in my life. :^)


Where do you think the discrimination comes from? Why do people believe the negative things they do about a ethnicity/race? If they had a neutral standpoint, would they call someone a stupid foreigner? If I continuously call people outside my race stupid foreigners, am I not exhibiting behaviors akin to strongly disliking, or as we say, hating something?

Calling someone a "stupid foreigner" absolutely has negative connotations towards someone's ethnicity/race lol. Again, saying something like "stupid German" or "stupid Frenchie" carries the same tone. You don't have to specifically name the race/ethnicity, you know. Most southern racists don't outright say they hate black people.

As for your example: I realize I typed in ethnicity instead of race, but oh well. But yes, that is a real type of discrimination that happens. In this case, the fiancee's mom is discriminating simply based on the perceived American culture. Now, we can probably debate on whether or not it's discriminatory/racist/whatever until we turn blue in the face, but here is my view: There are different types of discrimination, even amongst the same groups of race. Of course Chinese v. Chinese American discrimination will be different. You'll be hardpressed to find a Chinese person being outwardly self-hating towards their race. However you can absolutely find discrimination based on a view of "Chinese-Americans are just Americans". It's not based on race hate, no, but definitely a strong dislike for American/European centric values. It's a bit different, IMO, compared to calling a stranger a "stupid foreigner".

For my example, I'll use an IRL one. My family and I lived in a white-centric town for years. My mother does not speak English well. Caucasians have called her a "stupid foreigner", "stupid immigrant", ect because they hear her struggling to speak English and just have associated that Hispanics = stupid immigrants who just need to go back home. They're not calling her a "stupid immigrant" for nothing lol.

As for me myself, I am biracial but if you saw me you would instantly assume I'm black. I have, at many times, have experienced variations of "I hate black people", "I hate African Americans in particular because they're loud", people who say I "am one of the good ones".. this isn't even going into Haitians/Salvadorans hating the americanized ones lol. There is a lot of complexity to it.

edit: This is a bit after I posted but I had to rethink and remember the outright discrimination I would face as a Haitian compared to other Africans lol. Haitians are literally the butt of the joke for many Africans of other descents. "You are not the right type of black/shade" comes to mind lol.

[Izar_Chillen]

Well then, at least historically, Japan was never racist or xenophobic.

From what I've read, the Japanese effort to conquer Asia during WW2 wasn't rooted in a hatred of foreigners, but rather in the idea that the Japanese as a people were superior, and therefor they had a duty to lead the other people of Asia to peace and prosperity.

Tell that to the family's of the victims of Unit 731 a bioweapons science team that committed the most horrendous acts of lethal human torture and chemical experimentations ever documented

[VictorSpoils]

Random tho. Why do people say Ex1,2,3,4?????
Is this a new term? I remember people used to say «titan» or «sephi» to indicate stuff

It's faster.

[DixieBellOCE]

Random tho. Why do people say Ex1,2,3,4?????
Is this a new term? I remember people used to say «titan» or «sephi» to indicate stuff

Its to avoid spoilers for people that are not that far into the story.
Some people don't even know what the Extreme 3 trial is, and to name it would ruin the end of Endwalker for them.

[Raoabolic]

For my example, I'll use an IRL one. My family and I lived in a white-centric town for years. My mother does not speak English well. Caucasians have called her a "stupid foreigner", "stupid immigrant", ect because they hear her struggling to speak English and just have associated that Hispanics = stupid immigrants who just need to go back home. They're not calling her a "stupid immigrant" for nothing lol.

As for me myself, I am biracial but if you saw me you would instantly assume I'm black. I have, at many times, have experienced variations of "I hate black people", "I hate African Americans in particular because they're loud", people who say I "am one of the good ones".. this isn't even going into Haitians/Salvadorans hating the americanized ones lol. There is a lot of complexity to it.

edit: This is a bit after I posted but I had to rethink and remember the outright discrimination I would face as a Haitian compared to other Africans lol. Haitians are literally the butt of the joke for many Africans of other descents. "You are not the right type of black/shade" comes to mind lol.

Brah, it's america. Depending on who is living in the area you are in, the racism is different. Again, I would give examples but it would make certain people look bad and I would rather not get my forum account yeet'd because I broke a taboo, lol. That said, it is sad seeing a subculture in america get choked out because established norms don't vibe with the new blood. Oh well, at least they can't take away the Tejano food! lol

[Silverbane]

Tell that to the family's of the victims of Unit 731 a bioweapons science team that committed the most horrendous acts of lethal human torture and chemical experimentations ever documented

Tuskegee Syphilis Study, 1932-1972, Centers for Disease Control and Prevent (CDC), U.S.A.
Are all Americans to blame for that? Did most of them even know about it?
Did you?

[Raoabolic]

Tuskegee Syphilis Study, 1932-1972, Centers for Disease Control and Prevent (CDC), U.S.A.
Are all Americans to blame for that? Did most of them even know about it?
Did you?

Um, what does that have to do with 731 again? EVERY nation has done some questionable things. It's just trendy to kick a nation like america when it's down. I get it, I love a good dog pile as well! lol

[Padudu]

Brah, it's america. Depending on who is living in the area you are in, the racism is different. Again, I would give examples but it would make certain people look bad and I would rather not get my forum account yeet'd because I broke a taboo, lol. That said, it is sad seeing a subculture in america get choked out because established norms don't vibe with the new blood. Oh well, at least they can't take away the Tejano food! lol

I am well aware, trust me lol. I went from liberal city racism to bumhell slightly-midwestern-but-not-midwestern racism lol. Also very well aware of uhh.. all races discriminating in one way or another lol. Guess there's no nice way to say that!