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    Possible blacklist addition

    Can we get waymarks someone has on them added to things you don't see from someone who's blacklisted?

    Just did the trial. Only 1 or 2 people weren't new. We wipe a single time, and someone's already dorito'd themselves without anyone asking and is going over mechanics in chat. The trial's only been out for six hours. Chat can be closed, but it's impossible not to see the dorito.

    I didn't think things were really that bad and it seems very recoverable. A little trial and error and we'd have been fine. But we'll never know how well we would have done on the second round because someone didn't let us.
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    Ive only played one time at server live after a patch, this was a few years ago, but i was in new content less than an hour after live and before we even pulled someone was spewing out strats. Its terrible how some people can be. True blind playthoughs of content are unfortunately rare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    Ive only played one time at server live after a patch, this was a few years ago, but i was in new content less than an hour after live and before we even pulled someone was spewing out strats. Its terrible how some people can be. True blind playthoughs of content are unfortunately rare
    They are. I mean, that's why people play Day One. That's the only possible time a blind playthrough is remotely possible but then some jerk ruins it.

    That's why I'm looking forward to Variant dungeons scaling by number of people. I can do things myself and not get anything spoiled.
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    Wow, imagine that, people so helpful someone wants a feature to turn their help off. I wonder if others were thankful or as resentful as you...
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    I get what you are saying, but at the same time, what you get in DF is what you get. The only 100% way to ensure you get what you want would be to form a PF group indicating exactly what the group is. I realize the patch is new, so your chances of getting someone who has already done the fight increases as the day goes on, but I'm failing to see exactly what rule was broken in them giving out fight info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles View Post
    Wow, imagine that, people so helpful someone wants a feature to turn their help off. I wonder if others were thankful or as resentful as you...
    Don't join a party labeled blind then if you're going to spew strats when you load in. Not everyone wants your help
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Don't join a party labeled blind then if you're going to spew strats when you load in. Not everyone wants your help
    I must have missed something. Can you point out where anyone said they joined a party labeled blind? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    I must have missed something. Can you point out where anyone said they joined a party labeled blind? Thanks!
    They didn't but the point still stands for DF as well, I've just seen it way more in Party Finder. Not everyone wants your help, shut up and let people figure it out themselves if they want instead of spewing explanations immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    I get what you are saying, but at the same time, what you get in DF is what you get. The only 100% way to ensure you get what you want would be to form a PF group indicating exactly what the group is. I realize the patch is new, so your chances of getting someone who has already done the fight increases as the day goes on, but I'm failing to see exactly what rule was broken in them giving out fight info.
    Someone doesn't have to break a rule to get added to someone's blacklist. Sometimes it's just that said person doesn't want to see anything from them. I'd just like to see them add waymarks since there's no way to avoid those currently. So this way we can be proactive about preserving our experience.

    And Misplaced_Marbles, it's Day One. People just want a fair chance at figuring things out. Nobody asked for a dorito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Someone doesn't have to break a rule to get added to someone's blacklist. Sometimes it's just that said person doesn't want to see anything from them. I'd just like to see them add waymarks since there's no way to avoid those currently. So this way we can be proactive about preserving our experience.

    And Misplaced_Marbles, it's Day One. People just want a fair chance at figuring things out. Nobody asked for a dorito.
    Oh you adding them to your blacklist is not up for debate. You are entitled to add whomever you want to that list. Just so we are clear, I'm not one to offer strats unless someone asks. That is why I've wiped a few times in the new dungeon / trial so that people can see it for themselves. However, since DF is whatever you get (Good, bad, whatever), I'm of the opinion that you are at the mercy of whatever happens. Again, the only way to almost ensure you get what you wanted was to create a PF with what you were doing. Is it ideal? Probably not. However, it would be up to each person to decide if it matters that much to them, or if they are willing to take the risk of someone "spoiling" something. I'm not sure why they didn't, but I think a perfectly viable alternative would have been to allow it to be done with trusts.
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