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    MaeveHatesHousing's Avatar
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    new Perception requirement is stupid

    For those that dont know. the previous gathering nodes required 2990 perception to gather.

    the new gathering nodes are more than 600 over that, at 3600.

    why am I required to pentameld my gathering gear to get at the new stuff?

    even the tome gear, which should be for the casuals trying to get into crafting and gathering, is not enough perception.

    lower it to 3400.
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    How is 3600 hard? Have HQ Pactmaker gear with no advanced melded materia and my Perception is already 3557. I need, what? 2 X materia?

    Granted, with my base meld I have 13 Percep X and only 4 Gather X. But you don't need to Pentameld to get to 3600.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I don’t think it’s unfair this is just the first time they went really strong on perception rather than gathering

    I predicted wrong and ended up at like 3880/3500 thinking gathering would be the stat to pump, I can still easily reach 3600 perception I’d just have to change my melds, that’s totally fair
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    I know it seems like a big jump but I was able to get to 3700 perception with HQ new gear and weapons. I'm not pentamelded but I did have to put two 25 perception in each weapon to do it.
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    It might be a big jump, but keep in mind that we got a "free jump" going from the Ophio/AR-C velvet gearset to the Pactmaker's set. That gets you most of the way there.

    In my experience in this game, to meet the bare minimum requirements usually requires melding the guaranteed slots with the latest tier materia. A few extra melds (at 17%). Maybe food. In many cases, such as crafting, you don't need much on the MH/OH tools since that adds up (16 tools worth of melds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolks View Post
    How is 3600 hard? Have HQ Pactmaker gear with no advanced melded materia and my Perception is already 3557. I need, what? 2 X materia?

    Granted, with my base meld I have 13 Percep X and only 4 Gather X. But you don't need to Pentameld to get to 3600.
    I call BS on this statement. I have full HQ Pactmaker's set with an extra +328 Perception and I'm sitting at 3560 Perception without food or drafts!

    What am I doing wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Diganewie View Post
    I call BS on this statement. I have full HQ Pactmaker's set with an extra +328 Perception and I'm sitting at 3560 Perception without food or drafts!

    What am I doing wrong?
    The person who you are quoting said that with HQ Pactmaker and 13 base melded gatherers guile x materia they had 3557. Those 13 materia would add 325. So the math perfectly matches, if you added 328 and ended up 3 higher. So indeed, if you can get to within 43 points of the target number without even using all the available base melds(there should be 17 slots that you can put a guaranteed materia on a full set, 15 of which can support a full guile X), then getting to the target doesnt come even close to requiring pentamelds. And indeed, i would agree with the person you quote that it wouldnt be hard to hit that target number. Either use all your guaranteed materia slots, do some light overmelds, or use one of the 10 or so foods to get you those final points. Or, you know, start upgrading to the newer set that didnt exist when this post was made 7 months ago. An un-melded set of Indagator should put you over 3500 before you put in any melds at all.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Diganewie View Post
    I call BS on this statement. I have full HQ Pactmaker's set with an extra +328 Perception and I'm sitting at 3560 Perception without food or drafts!

    What am I doing wrong?
    Why do you think something is wrong? All you need is a cheap food to get the last 40 Perception you need and you're at 3600.

    If you're fully pentamelded, then you either prioritized the wrong materia type or used lower grades of materia than you could have (or both). But you still only need food to make up the last 40 points.
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