SAM is dead

[Vencio]

There is no Ishgardian wine, the land is too cold for any grapes to grow. Get lost, terrible troll.

- tosses a robotic playing mouse - Am afraid you’ve much to be cultured, glad you’ve taken such delight for our Elezen land’s cold winter, now please go fetch the mouse!

[Ruminous]

Samurai still performs numerically, and that's enough.

Or is it? Plays watered down, is less popular than the other melee now with its changes. Lost the feel of big swings in favor of wildly flailing a sword about. Mashing that shinten button and all that. Exciting. But hey, at least the wet fart is stinkier now, but only slightly?

Seriously though, job is far from dead. The identity it used to have definitely is dead, but the job itself still is "fine enough", is the best I can put it. However, I choose to remember what it once was, and never touch it again until it gets changed away from this iteration. That being said, SE's response (or lack thereof) is a troubling thing. People may troll samurais about their job's changes (why, I don't even know), but if this is a sign of how SE chooses to approach job balance, then we should be worried about what the future holds. I'm lookin' at you dragoon and astrologian, because you two are next in line for your "improvement".

As for you people who feel the need to mock samurai players, don't look for pity when your slice of fun is up on the chopping block. Because it definitely will happen with the way things are going balance wise.

[Deithwen]

- tosses a robotic playing mouse - Am afraid you’ve much to be cultured, glad you’ve taken such delight for our Elezen land’s cold winter, now please go fetch the mouse!

I was sincere when I told you to get lost, pathetic parody of a wine enjoyer. You're exactly at the worst spot on the Dunning Kruger curve.

[Runeslayer]

This class bias from other mains really needs to stop and be looked at objectively. A change was planned, and people did not want it. They asked to try it and give feedback, so reluctantly samurais did and still hated it, they did absolutely nothing with the feedback and consistently and ACTIVELY tried to sweep the discussion under the rug.

We all pay monthly for this game, as customers it is our right to voice our dissatisfaction with their product. Because if they act this way for SAM, and have BEEN acting this way for other jobs, what makes you think you're safe because your main hasn't been touched yet?

I was sincere when I told you to get lost, pathetic parody of a wine enjoyer. You're exactly at the worst spot on the Dunning Kruger curve.

Stop it, ignore him.

[Ransu]

This class bias from other mains really needs to stop and be looked at objectively. A change was planned, and people did not want it. They asked to try it and give feedback, so reluctantly samurais did and still hated it, they did absolutely nothing with the feedback and consistently and ACTIVELY tried to sweep the discussion under the rug.

We all pay monthly for this game, as customers it is our right to voice our dissatisfaction with their product. Because if they act this way for SAM, and have BEEN acting this way for other jobs, what makes you think you're safe because your main hasn't been touched yet?



Stop it, ignore him.

That's what pisses me off the most, the complete disregard to all of the backlash. They didn't address it in either of the live letters and its extremely frustrating despite that we know they know they screwed up due to them delaying the changes to DRG and AST.

[Rekun]

That's what pisses me off the most, the complete disregard to all of the backlash. They didn't address it in either of the live letters and its extremely frustrating despite that we know they know they screwed up due to them delaying the changes to DRG and AST.

Honestly I'm not even sure if they check the forums for feedback. There isn't a forum dedicated to giving in game feedback and this forum doesn't seem like the proper place for feedback either, but I could be wrong.

[Ruminous]

Honestly I'm not even sure if they check the forums for feedback. There isn't a forum dedicated to giving in game feedback and this forum doesn't seem like the proper place for feedback either, but I could be wrong.

They look at the forums as a joke, I'm sure. Or to feel better when they got the white knights defending them. I don't know, I'm speculating on that one.

Not everyone offers good opinions or thoughts (Definitely not me) but that's the nature of things. You do need to dig and look for those things that are worth listening to or reading.

[Nizzi]

Honestly I'm not even sure if they check the forums for feedback. There isn't a forum dedicated to giving in game feedback and this forum doesn't seem like the proper place for feedback either, but I could be wrong.

The annoying part is that when you go to the Support Desk in game - the ONLY way you can contact anyone who works on the game inside of the game - it directly tells you to come to the forums for suggestions and feedback regarding the game itself since the support desk is meant for feedback on GMs. So basically, this is a forum dedicated to feedback, it's the only official method of giving feedback, and yet it feels like they ignore literally everything on it and have opted to get their feedback from some random, unnamed source that nobody has any clue what it actually is. Great stuff!

[xAFROx]

Samurai still performs numerically, and that's enough.

Or is it? Plays watered down, is less popular than the other melee now with its changes. Lost the feel of big swings in favor of wildly flailing a sword about. Mashing that shinten button and all that. Exciting. But hey, at least the wet fart is stinkier now, but only slightly?

Seriously though, job is far from dead. The identity it used to have definitely is dead, but the job itself still is "fine enough", is the best I can put it. However, I choose to remember what it once was, and never touch it again until it gets changed away from this iteration. That being said, SE's response (or lack thereof) is a troubling thing. People may troll samurais about their job's changes (why, I don't even know), but if this is a sign of how SE chooses to approach job balance, then we should be worried about what the future holds. I'm lookin' at you dragoon and astrologian, because you two are next in line for your "improvement".

As for you people who feel the need to mock samurai players, don't look for pity when your slice of fun is up on the chopping block. Because it definitely will happen with the way things are going balance wise.

Never am I going to say the job is bad numerically. That's just factually not true. But the flow has shifted, while slight, it's enough so that most who knew the job well enough notice it and that's where one of my main gripes about the changes are.

Also, I'm still wondering where the heck they take their feedback from because small potency increase is not what we have all been clamoring about. The whole kit feels odd to use, aoe is just an egregious mess, but potency was not the real problem.

[Ruminous]

Never am I going to say the job is bad numerically. That's just factually not true. But the flow has shifted, while slight, it's enough so that most who knew the job well enough notice it and that's where one of my main gripes about the changes are.

Also, I'm still wondering where the heck they take their feedback from because small potency increase is not what we have all been clamoring about. The whole kit feels odd to use, aoe is just an egregious mess, but potency was not the real problem.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Job's fine numerically, and that's all they care about. I played the job from Stormblood to 6.1, so yeah, I can regale you with how much I loved the old flow. It's really why I hate what its become, the "wildly flailing a katana around".

Otherwise, I'd be playing it still. Now? My katana's gone to rest and likely wont ever be used again. Maybe when they end up changing the abomination from what it is now, but you know, that wont be until 7.0 at the very least. Still what, two years, give or take? Better to just move on.