SAM is dead

[Deithwen]

What is so hard to understand that this has nothing to do with numbers and everything to do with the feel of the job?

How dare we expect decent gameplay in a video game?!
Only numbers count!
new job: one button, 100k hit per press, auto crit, why don't you like it ?

[Jaquan]

How dare we expect decent gameplay in a video game?!
Only numbers count!
new job: one button, 100k hit per press, auto crit, why don't you like it ?

Hyperbole aside you do realize that fun and feel are subjective? What's fun to you may not br fun to others. What stands for the main feel of the job may not be the same for others. Didn't have a chance to use Kaiten as I got the full game after 6.1 dropped. In fact for the ling time I did not touch SAM out of both respect for the SAM players prior me and due to opinion of being ruined. I ultimately did and... I kinda like it. Building up to the Iai feels fun on top of weaving between positionals and learning the right opportunity to use the finisher. Would my opinion be different if I had a chance to try SAM before Kaiten removal? Maybe. Maybe not. Would it matter? Probably not since even then it's just my subjective opinions and feelings.

[Ransu]

Is this still related to Kaiten? I mean I get you miss it, but SAM is not "dead" dead.

Its dead to me. Auto crits are boring, and shinten spam sucks.

It actually got buffed. It's not dead whatsoever. People just being overly dramatic on the forums like always.

Wow...aoe buffs to put us back in to 6.0 mediocre aoe status....neat....

[Hysterior]

I blame WoW players for kaiten being deleted. Discuss.

[Kabooa]

I blame WoW players for kaiten being deleted. Discuss.

Nah, WoW players are all about spinning. It increases crit chance.

[Equitable_Remedy]

What is dead may never die.

[Theodric_Thorne]

SAM is not dead (I haven't tested it yet but it sounds like the changes to crit/d-hit will make our heavy hitters feel powerful again, which is great) but we do still need Kaiten back. It added a certain rhythm to the way the job played and gave the Kenki gauge a purpose. Now all we use Kenki for is Shinten spam. Guren and Senei may as well not even be spenders because of their long and mutually exclusive CD.

I also still believe it was a mistake to turn Tenka Goken into a circular AoE. We have other cone/column attacks.

TL;DR SAM is not dead but it's not in the best state it could be. Hopefully in 7.0 it gets fixed somehow.

[CelestiCer]

Dead? maybe not. Dead to many players? definitely.


The worst part is the Dev's and Yoshi ignoring the feedback they requested. Silence, not even acknowledging it due to Damage Control of the backlash from over 145 Samurai threads / 10 Youtube video's on Samurai / and the JP forums being on fire till this day on their megathread going over 200 pages of post s.

Gameplay that's deleted while it being downplayed by the usual repetitive rhetoric of the once that don't care for preserving or improving FFXIV's gameplay whatsoever.

• Ehh, looked up FFlogs or not, SAM still performs
• Square can't do no wrong ook-ook monkey noises
• It's just 1 Button, right?

Players who genuinely cared were the once actually saying anything about it. Like Yoshi-P said quote " the silent leave first ". We were requested to post feedback on the forum, and met with dismissal and mocked simplified to just stfu basically since no matter what gameplay experiences were lost, " you're fine ". Great sparkling community.

If players want to dive into their nihilism? that's completely fine. It does get old to hear the same lines from white gargling stained mouths gushing over a company they been sucking on that seemingly can't do no wrong. But hey, I still enjoy Sam, I just have no faith in the current SE team.

[Vencio]

I am glad you’ve come around your senses & just be sat down to cherish the new SAM -sips Ishgardian wine-

I am glad others sees this approach in new light to great beginnings

PS: it was you that set the flames first & snuffed the “glue” if anything

[Deithwen]

I am glad you’ve come around your senses & just be sat down to cherish the new SAM -sips Ishgardian wine-

I am glad others sees this approach in new light to great beginnings

PS: it was you that set the flames first & snuffed the “glue” if anything

There is no Ishgardian wine, the land is too cold for any grapes to grow. Get lost, terrible troll.