Does anyone else feel like the devs just don't like MCH?

[Jason_Ashford]

Maybe it's me. Maybe i'm being dumb and the change is a good thing, but isn't Machinist already dead last in terms of DPS amidst all other dps classes? Why does it feel like they got an unneeded nerf to their DPS?

[Ranaku]

Ah yes, they butcher MCH again and again and let it rot somewhere. MCH is the selfish damagedealer who can't deal damage because of an really old reasoning that they could attack when melees and casters had to just run but over the years that reason is basically gone with all the actions melees and casters got to well deal damage while moving.

Now MCH hits like a wet pool noodle compared to others...

[AzazelCaine]

Nope, they really just don't like us.

[Kranel_San]

Smells like a MCH rework is coming, or the job is simply joining the DRK & SCH club

[ADarklore]

I have to admit, I about fell over when I saw the patch notes! All the buffs on other classes... except for Machinist!! Thankfully I had switched to DNC from Machinist when I came back to FFXIV due to them already badly nerfing MCH previously... but now... just WOW. What is going on with their clear hate of MCH?!?

[Raoabolic]

What are you talking about? I, for one, enjoy sitting on a full bar or hope it fills up during an optimum burst window! Speaking of which, what other class punishes you for blowing your resources as soon as they are available? At most I can only think of rdm but they can be a pinch healer/rezzer. What does mch have? Tactician? lmao

[Jason_Ashford]

What are you talking about? I, for one, enjoy sitting on a full bar or hope it fills up during an optimum burst window! Speaking of which, what other class punishes you for blowing your resources as soon as they are available? At most I can only think of rdm but they can be a pinch healer/rezzer. What does mch have? Tactician? lmao

i would argue Summoner is in a similar situation. Bahamut, Phoenix, and Ifrit are the bulk of SMN's burst, and if you pop them outside of a burst window in a raid, you can find yourself doing less damage overall. That being said, it is far less severe than it was prior to 6.0

[Deo14]

Smells like a MCH rework is coming, or the job is simply joining the DRK & SCH club

Can't wait for 2024, since they are no longer doing patch reworks after they fucked up 6.1 so bad.

[Deceptus]

And there are pretty simple QoL ways they can make the job straight up better.

Wildfire being a guaranteed DH-Crit. For the buildup and long CD for this not to have already happened is baffling.

Auto Crossbow not lowering the CD of Ricochet is baffling as well.

Flamethrower is still a clunky skill. It could be an alternate way to lose heat if Wildfire is on CD. Massive heat blast.

The 5s windup on The Queen has never been adequately explained. I assume it's just because latency / spaghetti code because they won't tell us otherwise.

[ADarklore]

i would argue Summoner is in a similar situation. Bahamut, Phoenix, and Ifrit are the bulk of SMN's burst, and if you pop them outside of a burst window in a raid, you can find yourself doing less damage overall. That being said, it is far less severe than it was prior to 6.0

However, SMN is still high in the DPS charts, whereas MCH has been near the bottom for some time now, and this patch will make it even worse. If anything, they should have kept the regular potency and just increased it for 'higher battery' use.