Samurai is dead to me, thanks square (Kaiten 6.2)

[CelestiCer]

crybabies need to stop...

Okey wait... For legal reasons... Truly...
I need to check your history for hell of it lets see what you been up to...
Here goes! Hokay! (*cracks knuckles*) ouch...

well you can keep crying about this and hope one day they hear you and remove it but don't hold your breath waiting

Good feedback I guess? on the Positionals... okey...

if this were feedback yes butt sence its a bunch of winers who can't let go no

Samurai feedback I guess as well? very constructive...

if you mad about this job pick another one till they fix this one and stop crying about it and move on.

Same topic... huh I am noticing a pattern wait give me a second...

don't hold your breath waiting for something happen its not going to.

Something about the report system not working. All your arguments are very 1 liner the same o.o;

if you don't like normal do hard and leave the first alone for the normal players it keeps us busy

Oofers! idk if this is telling of something.

if you don't like the current job pick another till the job is corrected you have 17 to choose from crying about it for over 61 padges does not work the programmers will get this done in their time not yours.

Here's another one pretty much the same thing okey...

poor sorry players not takin g care of their houses well you snoose you lose learn from your mistakes.

Bashing House owners okey dokey, very " constructive " one liner.

system needs to be maintained crying about does not help.

Uh-huh... very informative..



*Summary*
Your main stig has been basically...

• Complaining about any feedback players post
• On any topic regardless of it's valuable points
• And bash it with a one liner
• Essentially Complaining about everyone Complaining

This goes on for pages in your history this is... this is something. Unironically you're the definition of crying since it's empty of any substance. And I thought my posts were colored repetitively bland, but this is like an extra special bland of "Grey", and I am not even talking about logs...

[Ryaz]

There are no "big midare" anymore. And you contradict yourself again.
In a single sentence you say you like the final DPS, but then go on about the "big hits".

If your big hit is not even half of a Whm or a Ninja's, how is it a bit hit ? How do you actively build anything to get it ? It's weak, it's not a "finisher" anymore.

I swear you're being purposefully obtuse.

Midare is still one of our biggest hitting abilities, especially with the crit changes. None of my other abilities are hitting 25-30k damage regularly. I don't care what a WHM or Ninja can do once every minute. I get like 4 Midare every minute that still feel good to use, especially with tsubame. I get the screen shaking Namikiri's every two minutes. I'll take that feel over throwing some ice shurikens any day, numbers be damned.

[RyuuZero]

hmm now Midare hits like 23k to 26k+?
with Kaiten it was around 30k^^

[Deithwen]

I swear you're being purposefully obtuse.

Midare is still one of our biggest hitting abilities, especially with the crit changes. None of my other abilities are hitting 25-30k damage regularly. I don't care what a WHM or Ninja can do once every minute. I get like 4 Midare every minute that still feel good to use, especially with tsubame. I get the screen shaking Namikiri's every two minutes. I'll take that feel over throwing some ice shurikens any day, numbers be damned.

I'm not obtuse, you're just clueless.
A raiton has more potency than Midare. And it's followed by a Raiju with just a bit less potency. Add the 15% damage down on the target every minute on it and you already widen the gap even more.
The big finishers are in your head only.

[Deithwen]

hmm now Midare hits like 23k to 26k+?
with Kaiten it was around 30k^^

It was way more than that. A normal hit without crit was around 25k indeed, but with direct crit you could go above 50k. More in line to what Ninja is currently.

[CelestiCer]

I swear you're being purposefully obtuse

No. We're not being Doltish. Many of us base it off of...

• The Balance Discord, FFLogs, Number comparisons
• In-game testing before 6.08 and after 6.1
• Being BiS to access maximum damage

Atm I sit on 614 ilvl, crafted PEN Materia with Savage accesories and EX4 Weapon. Not BiS but being BiS week 1 is not realistic. So Current 6.2 with Dancer DP/Raidbuffs and Pot window I maybe can hit

• 50k Midare: Setsugekka and 60k Ogi Namikiri

Versus 6.08 BiS Kaiten Era with Dancer DP/Raidbuffs and Pot window

• 60k/70k+ Midare: Setsugekka and 70k/100k+ Ogi Namikiri

Seeing is believing, here's footage of " Ty Ci's during 6.08 " as 1 of many reference points. Comparing 6.08 BiS vs none 6.2 BiS isn't fair but that's not the point. The comparison is about the Crit-spikes forever lost due to Auto-Crit implementation. Where Ty Ci in that video goes " Ohh! 100k!! ", those moments are gone now.

Don't take our " obtuse " take for it, hear it from Yoshi-P himself who admits in a live-letter before 6.2 stating Big Crit's and Hits is the appeal of Samurai. And acknowledges there can be a backlash by changing this. Aka the Auto-Crit implementation, and he was right, there is.

It ain't always about the numbers. The only number that really means anything to me is my final DPS

Crit Striking the same always? Feels like Crit striking never. Bland, Boring, Flavorless and no excitement. Every Oomph and thought behind the big hits are gone as well without Kaiten. No amount of bigger number performance is going to make up for lost gameplay. Their Future changes that never arrived is not going to make up for it either, and that's a long wait. Crayon collecting and reduced DPS fluctuations another hobby and take if you care about " Final DPS ". Then again... Many value FFXIV's in-game gameplay a lot higher then subpar blue colored dopamine hits from reading aftermath graph performances of some darn logs on some stupid webpage...


Top performing Job now or not, 6.2 SAM feels hollow compared to 6.08 SAM

PS: For Live Letter sources, go to https://discord.com/invite/ffxiv at the translations channel.

[Neoyoshi]

If only we could get everyone else on board with the "Samurai-is-dead-to-me train, then perhaps people would stop talking about it.

I'm ever the optimist.

[CelestiCer]

If only we could get everyone else on board with the "Samurai-is-dead-to-me train, then perhaps people would stop talking about it.

I'm ever the optimist.

If only we could all be as passionless about " anything ", perhaps we could make a games PvE combat as mind-numbingly thoughtless and soulless as say FFXIV's fishing.

I'm ever the realistic pessimist.

[Neoyoshi]

If only we could all be as passionless about " anything ", perhaps we could make a games PvE combat as mind-numbingly thoughtless and soulless as say FFXIV's fishing.

I'm ever the realistic pessimist.

You know it's just fishing. Same way Kaiten is just a skill, so if there's something you really want to say, then just actually say it.

[RyuuZero]

You know it's just fishing. Same way Kaiten is just a skill, so if there's something you really want to say, then just actually say it.

to be honest I think we're essentially talking about this since April.. hell I was lucky that I did a Video showcasing Raw Footage of me doing stuff with Kaiten before they gutted Samurai.
but for me, I only have one thing to say: Bring Back Kaiten

though I really wonder if some other Game Dev notices this? I mean developing an tabtarget-RPG with a slightly modified version of the 6.08 Samurai Playstyle doesn't sound that impossible to me.