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  1. #1
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    ninjasoldier014's Avatar
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    Miyella Tyata
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100

    Samurai is dead to me, thanks square (Kaiten 6.2)

    This will be my second and final post about this. Dev team, you had your chance. There was hope, you could have gone back but no. What really sucks is that I just got off of a long work day and came home to read the patch notes, and now I'm gonna be in a really bad mood for the rest of the day and tomorrow. No, I'm not trying to be hateful, I am a worried fan and care A LOT about this game and want it to succeed and be the best it can be. I want the devs to read this and take this seriously. I am severely disappointed.

    I don't like how the devs are treating this topic right now, completely ignoring us and all, and no I'm not going to give them a pass like others do because we need to call them out when they aren't thinking through these issues. Removing kaiten is like removing Eukrasia from Sage. To me, this ability is core to the job's identity. Animation, sound, complexity, whatever else you want to call it. You want to remove button bloat? How about start with Shoha II.

    So yeah, I don't want to repeat myself but I just want to clarify to the dev team, Samurai is dead to me. I refuse to play the job, and I can accept this because I decided to main healer for this expansion and beyond. I wanted to have samurai as my main DPS job, but it seems I'll just have to roll with reaper for the time being. (Since the job is so new, it'll take them 2 expansions to ruin it)

    To all the 10s of people who still play samurai and don't care for the change, you do you. I just hope the devs are listening to the rest of us.
    (49)

  2. #2
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    "All the 10 people"... the exaggerations people come up with. I swear these forums are filled with the most cynical, sky is falling players I've ever met in my life.

    Also, bye.
    (5)

  3. #3
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    How many "I'm disappointed and Square Enix needs to fire their entire staff because Kaiten didn't come back" threads do we need?
    (5)

  4. #4
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    CienFleur's Avatar
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    Malik Knight
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    What's The Deal With "Kaiten"? I Played SAM Since Day One, Back In SB & Till Today SAM Is Good
    Drama Much?
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    MellowMink's Avatar
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    Character
    Mello Minkus
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CienFleur View Post
    What's The Deal With "Kaiten"? I Played SAM Since Day One, Back In SB & Till Today SAM Is Good
    Drama Much?
    Why is every single word in this post capitalized?
    (26)

  6. #6
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Character
    Celesti Cer
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    For the glue sniffers, what just happened with the Patchnotes
    • They removed Kaiten without explanations
    • Added Auto-Crit when no one asked for it
    • Changed Tenka Goken that no one asked for
    • Nerfed our AoE, damage and Crit comp synergies
    • Asked us to try out the changes
    • Requested feedback on the changes
    • Made changes no one asked for
    • We tried and gave Feedback
    • Compensate the negative feedback with smacking potencies allover
    • Promise to explain the lost gameplay in future patchnotes
    • Future patchnotes is here...
    Zero Explanations! To the surprise of no one, as predicted in a nutshell. They ignored the feedback Yoshi and Dev's requested to give. after every amount of feedback from every medium possible that they told us to use, we're not acknowledged due to damage control of the backlash.
    • 150 Threads anti 6.1 Samurai changes
    • 10 Youtube video's of Samurai feedback and satire
    • 200 Pages of backlash on the JP SAM megathread
    Downplayed to 10 players? You're performing fine? It's just 1 button? It's baffling that no one is drowning in the white juices gushing out their throats from sucking off a company this hard downplaying it to 1 button...

    We didn't care as much about being nr1 DPS. Potency changes can always be balanced, Gameplay lost is Gameplay lost. It feels shallow and hollow now.
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  7. #7
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    "All the 10 people"... the exaggerations people come up with. I swear these forums are filled with the most cynical, sky is falling players I've ever met in my life.

    Also, bye.
    Sure its an exaggeration, but fflogs does show that after 6.1 there was a sharp decline in sam players, especially in ultimate.
    (17)

  8. #8
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    Deithwen's Avatar
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Sharp to say the least.
    From one of the most popular melee to the 2nd least popular. Even Monk was played more (quite a bit more) which never happened.
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  9. #9
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    Jaquan's Avatar
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    Character
    Kirya Nordrain
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    Sharp to say the least.
    From one of the most popular melee to the 2nd least popular. Even Monk was played more (quite a bit more) which never happened.
    And if I am to hazard a guess it was because SAM developed an anti synergy with 4 other jobs that had "Buff crit rate" skills and their individual damage wasn't able to compensate for this. Now the issue is "gone" due to Crit/Direct Hit Rate buffs now granting damage bonus to the "Guaranteed Crit/Direct Hit" skills. Gonna wait and see how it affects them in a week when new Savage drops
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  10. #10
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    And if I am to hazard a guess it was because SAM developed an anti synergy with 4 other jobs that had "Buff crit rate" skills and their individual damage wasn't able to compensate for this. Now the issue is "gone" due to Crit/Direct Hit Rate buffs now granting damage bonus to the "Guaranteed Crit/Direct Hit" skills. Gonna wait and see how it affects them in a week when new Savage drops
    It was surely part of the issue, but I sincerly doubt the recent changes will make up for the loss anyway. We have a wet noodle instead of a sharp Katana now and a brain dead job.
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