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    Picker Blend
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    Reaper doesn’t need a buff. Everyone in here looking at pink parse numbers and thinking that applies to them; theres literally only dozens of them and none of them in this thread complaining. It’s a new job, a non FF job, and easiest dps to play. They can sit under dragoon and be happy. I’m sorry you were overturned for ex1 and ex2 but that’s not coming back.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picker View Post
    Reaper doesn’t need a buff. Everyone in here looking at pink parse numbers and thinking that applies to them; theres literally only dozens of them and none of them in this thread complaining. It’s a new job, a non FF job, and easiest dps to play. They can sit under dragoon and be happy. I’m sorry you were overturned for ex1 and ex2 but that’s not coming back.
    It's DPS DRK. Don't fool yourself. Half the skills were ripped or are flavor text from FFXI. Voidsent oGCDs amount to Oath from FF5 Necromancer.

    If they decide to buff it they can let me swing my ketchup scythe for 30 seconds every time I Enshroud.

    > : Y
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picker View Post
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    No job is 'intrinsically' complex. The more time you invest into a job, the more nuance that you discover in it. You are not better than someone else just because you decided to choose a particular job. Nor are you entitled to do more dps.

    If you were actually comfortable with your own skill as a dps player, you'd want an even playing field for all jobs in terms of rdps, simply because you wouldn't be scared of a little healthy competition.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Meh they should kill raid buffs and the 2 minute burst. Game might evolve if they did.

    The game overall at current endgame has anything but an even playing field. Given you can be a top level MCH and still lose to a Mediocre Monk(Dragon Kick go brr).

    I don't think the devs care too much if it took them 6 years for a Living Dead change, they took away Kaiten and cone AoEs(unless you play Reaps but that'll go away soon I'm sure) for whatever reason and have definitely made it a PvP expansion considering it's much more fun then the 2 minute raid buff burst special deluxe PvE mode.
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    Jenova
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Picker View Post
    Reaper doesn’t need a buff. Everyone in here looking at pink parse numbers and thinking that applies to them; theres literally only dozens of them and none of them in this thread complaining. It’s a new job, a non FF job, and easiest dps to play. They can sit under dragoon and be happy. I’m sorry you were overturned for ex1 and ex2 but that’s not coming back.
    I don't think difficulty of a job should determine how much damage it does. RPR was advertised as more of a selfish DPS. I thought it would sit right behind SAM as a decent alternative to a high personal damage job that you funnel resources into, like AST cards and DNC buffs. Sure it has a raid buff but it's more selfish due to plentiful harvest, the 3% is just something thrown on there

    "new job" "non ff job" "easiest to play" shows how out of touch you are with job balance if you think that's where its power budget is being spent, especially the first 2 like what are we even talking about at that point.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    All DPS are selfish.

    And I wouldn't call RPR a selfish DPS since their raid buff has to be used to even use PH alongside having a low CD weak shield that gives the party a HoT which they probably should of kept if their damage is going to be as low as it is.

    And to get the most bang for your buck the whole party has to hit something to get a full power PH.

    Reaper is very middle of the road and is very reliant on Enshroud/GibbetmahGallows for it's damage. Otherwise it's a wet noodle.

    You can also make the argument that Reaper probably has lower damage because it suffers from ranged tax because it can Harpe from a distance and warp in and out of bad situations if it needs to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    All DPS are selfish.

    And I wouldn't call RPR a selfish DPS since their raid buff has to be used to even use PH alongside having a low CD weak shield that gives the party a HoT which they probably should of kept if their damage is going to be as low as it is.

    And to get the most bang for your buck the whole party has to hit something to get a full power PH.

    Reaper is very middle of the road and is very reliant on Enshroud/GibbetmahGallows for it's damage. Otherwise it's a wet noodle.

    You can also make the argument that Reaper probably has lower damage because it suffers from ranged tax because it can Harpe from a distance and warp in and out of bad situations if it needs to.
    I don't get what your point is here and feel like I'm just going to repeat myself with this response

    When I say selfish DPS, I'm talking about SAM who uses the party members around them to shine by putting the most they can in raid buffs. RPR was advertised to be similar to this with high personal DPS, so my expectations were that it would be just under SAM, and at the lowest, maybe competing with MNK for that 2nd spot as an alternative to taking a SAM in a DNC comp

    You can call RPR whatever you want but the design intent of RPR was to be more selfish than not

    What it is at now is pathetic for having the personal DPS that it does and one of the weakest raid buffs in the game. I don't know where it stands at the moment but clearly it does not perform anywhere near what it was advertised to ever since patch 6.08
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashy View Post
    I don't get what your point is here and feel like I'm just going to repeat myself with this response

    When I say selfish DPS, I'm talking about SAM who uses the party members around them to shine by putting the most they can in raid buffs. RPR was advertised to be similar to this with high personal DPS, so my expectations were that it would be just under SAM, and at the lowest, maybe competing with MNK for that 2nd spot as an alternative to taking a SAM in a DNC comp

    You can call RPR whatever you want but the design intent of RPR was to be more selfish than not

    What it is at now is pathetic for having the personal DPS that it does and one of the weakest raid buffs in the game. I don't know where it stands at the moment but clearly it does not perform anywhere near what it was advertised to ever since patch 6.08
    It doesn’t matter what RPR was “advertised as” because fact is it has a raid buff and one of the stronger bits of melee utility, should it still do more damage despite this, yes, does the fact that it’s underpowered mean it’s a selfish DPS, no
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashy View Post
    You can call RPR whatever you want but the design intent of RPR was to be more selfish than not
    K. I'm going to call it middle of the road because that's what it is. SAM/BLM are your epitome of "selfish" because they provide no utilities. Just damage. Reaper provides more then that. 3% rDPS is still 3% and the HoT is up very often.

    If it were me I'd add a fun mechanic where you get a stack of Sacrifice everytime something dies or you hit your positional so you can use Harvest more often. PH really shouldn't have a CD. And should not be tied to Arcane Circle.

    If Enshroud is where the bulk of the damage comes from then level cap we should have a way to stay in Enshroud the whole fight because without it your damage is peanuts.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Flashy View Post
    When I say selfish DPS, I'm talking about SAM who uses the party members around them to shine by putting the most they can in raid buffs. RPR was advertised to be similar to this with high personal DPS, so my expectations were that it would be just under SAM, and at the lowest, maybe competing with MNK for that 2nd spot as an alternative to taking a SAM in a DNC comp
    Thats exactly where RPR stands though, behind MNK at spot 3 in personal dps

    Now when it comes to raid dps, all melee jobs should be roughly similar, with minor nods being given to defensive utility, which RPR is the best, so it gets to be 5th in raid dps.
    That sounds completely fair to me.
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    Last edited by ChaozK; 09-11-2022 at 12:06 PM.

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