Reaper needs additional buffs.

[Lyth]

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It's generally useful to include the encounter under comparison, in addition to the type of data that you're comparing. For example, the discord conversation that you linked was dated as 17/12/2021. Asphodelos was released on 21/12/2021. So what encounter is actually under comparison in your graph? The highest level content available at the time would be one of the two launch Extreme primals. That may have been interesting preliminary information at the time, but it's fairly irrelevant as a measure of job performance in Savage. If you have any early Asphodelos graphs I'd be interested in looking at them, but as far as I remember SAM was on top in there followed by BLM, at least until SAM players started vocally complaining about RPR.

[MagiusNecros]

my only beef with reaper is that it is possible to overwrite gluttony/gibbet/gallow/soul reaver stacks.

why?

I think the devs want you to commit to those attacks to give the job some artificial difficulty.

I don't do it often but if I lose Reaver stacks because I wombo combo Gluttony and Harvest Moon in the wrong order it feels bad.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Maybe since people are all freaking out over the dodgy balance atm we can expect a slightly speedier balance patch with some buffs for our beloved reaper... one can only hope!

[Zarkovitch]

we all know they are going add crit dhit one of the reaper moves.

[MagiusNecros]

we all know they are going add crit dhit one of the reaper moves.

Look forward to positionals on Enshroud for your guaranteed Direct Hit Crits lol

Especially considering with the Reaper stealth nerfs most of your beefcake damage comes from your Enshroud windows.

[BarretOblivion]

I don't agree with any of that, reaper seems perfectly balanced right now.

The cold hard data is right now, RPR is not. RPR is the lowest melee dps right now. (Yes, it's below NIN) after all the other melee jobs got buffed/reworked because the weren't in a great place (except MNK, MNK's been hot since 6.0). RPR is not the only major job balance issue right now.

Currently:
WAR/PLD/RDM/BRD/MCH all are underperforming to an extreme degree if you look at logs and you speak with top teams who cleared the tier. When players are being forced to swap JOBS to hit DPS checks you have a gigantic massive issue. While many would argue 'just nerf the overperforming ones' the issue is SE has balanced the current raid tier and the ultimate around the current balance they had with the bulk of other jobs DPS. To nerf the outliers would require a nerf also to some of the DPS requirements of the tier (which they are never going to do) mainly for 8S.
Now to specifically point out at RPR, RPR has been on the downward trend hard since the other melees (again besides MNK) got buffed/reworked particularily looking at around when DSR released. RPR is pretty darn terrible specifically in DSR, partly due to the nature of the fight being burst focused and RPR basically needing a portion of their burst to be reliant on a 'gauge' that they can't fill or do anything at all to build during downtime (WHICH THERE IS ALOT IN DSR).

[Supersnow845]

The cold hard data is right now, RPR is not. RPR is the lowest melee dps right now. (Yes, it's below NIN) after all the other melee jobs got buffed/reworked because the weren't in a great place (except MNK, MNK's been hot since 6.0). RPR is not the only major job balance issue right now.

Currently:
WAR/PLD/RDM/BRD/MCH all are underperforming to an extreme degree if you look at logs and you speak with top teams who cleared the tier. When players are being forced to swap JOBS to hit DPS checks you have a gigantic massive issue. While many would argue 'just nerf the overperforming ones' the issue is SE has balanced the current raid tier and the ultimate around the current balance they had with the bulk of other jobs DPS. To nerf the outliers would require a nerf also to some of the DPS requirements of the tier (which they are never going to do) mainly for 8S.
Now to specifically point out at RPR, RPR has been on the downward trend hard since the other melees (again besides MNK) got buffed/reworked particularily looking at around when DSR released. RPR is pretty darn terrible specifically in DSR, partly due to the nature of the fight being burst focused and RPR basically needing a portion of their burst to be reliant on a 'gauge' that they can't fill or do anything at all to build during downtime (WHICH THERE IS ALOT IN DSR).

I’d also argue SMN and BLM are undertuned. SMN and RDM are both almost the same and they are both in very bad shape, BLM is fine as a true caster but since it more fills the spot of fake melee it’s really undertuned for the fake melee spot

Basically everyone is a mess except GNB/DRK/NIN/SAM/MNK and DRG with the healers only balanced because even a 2 year old could balance the healers

[Lyth]

Part of the problem is RPR is particularly sensitive to disruptions during double Enshroud, which can force some awkward window timings on these fights. A really good example is the second Obal in P7S, which deliberately forces GCD downtime where you want to place a window.

The other, recurring issue is that there's an expectation that certain jobs consistently have an rdps advantage over others because reasons. That in turn ensures that they're better represented, which in turn leads to a louder forum presence and more buffs. It would be fine if some of these jobs actually got rotated out, but once they get to the top they tend to stay there for expansions at a time. If RPR and SAM's positions here were ever reversed, you'd never hear the end of it.

[remiff]

I’d also argue SMN and BLM are undertuned. SMN and RDM are both almost the same and they are both in very bad shape, BLM is fine as a true caster but since it more fills the spot of fake melee it’s really undertuned for the fake melee spot

Basically everyone is a mess except GNB/DRK/NIN/SAM/MNK and DRG with the healers only balanced because even a 2 year old could balance the healers

Overall all casters need a buff, the bard, the machinist and reaper also, the paladin and the war should not be so far from the PST / DRK DPS as well.

They could also add a guaranteed autocrit on certain spell.

[ZiraZ]

The cold hard data is right now, RPR is not. RPR is the lowest melee dps right now. (Yes, it's below NIN) after all the other melee jobs got buffed/reworked because the weren't in a great place (except MNK, MNK's been hot since 6.0). RPR is not the only major job balance issue right now.

Currently:
WAR/PLD/RDM/BRD/MCH all are underperforming to an extreme degree if you look at logs and you speak with top teams who cleared the tier. When players are being forced to swap JOBS to hit DPS checks you have a gigantic massive issue. While many would argue 'just nerf the overperforming ones' the issue is SE has balanced the current raid tier and the ultimate around the current balance they had with the bulk of other jobs DPS. To nerf the outliers would require a nerf also to some of the DPS requirements of the tier (which they are never going to do) mainly for 8S.
Now to specifically point out at RPR, RPR has been on the downward trend hard since the other melees (again besides MNK) got buffed/reworked particularily looking at around when DSR released. RPR is pretty darn terrible specifically in DSR, partly due to the nature of the fight being burst focused and RPR basically needing a portion of their burst to be reliant on a 'gauge' that they can't fill or do anything at all to build during downtime (WHICH THERE IS ALOT IN DSR).

Cold hard data says on P8SP1 reaper is on par basically with drg on rdps and ahead on adps, just because it's the lowest doesn't mean it needs a buff, the bottom part of the melees are well balanced.
Everything indicates that playing RPR vs DRG is not a dealbreaker, if you are having issues with enrage it's most likely someone else in your party playing something that is underperforming like WAR/PLD/MCH/RDM/SMN/BRD, not reaper, reaper does not need a buff, all those other previously mentioned jobs do.