6.2 eve pvp changes

[Cheremia]

So if we're making balance changes because of win-rates... Why wasn't Bard buffed, exactly..? Is that 10% reduced GCD speed for the party that much of a gamebreaker that it's supposed to have <50% win rate..?

You mean, let me check the notes....

Brd, Mch, Dnc, Smn, Gnb, drg?
Since they all have less than 50%! (unironically, whm just has 1% less than some, that's literally NOTHING)

Like I won't say whm is too strong nor or anything, but have they looked at the PLAYRATES instead of the wins?
Whm is notorioulsy advertised by everybody to be op, so what do people do?
They play whm. It's beginner friendly, people like how it plays, it's the "op" one.
It draws a lot of people to it.
It is quite rare to not at least have one whm in any match given.

I will NOT believe the winrates WITHOUT how many people play it.
Because I'm almost 100% sure that whm is one, if not THE most played class in pvp.
Winrates without the actual playrates don't make any sense to show, since less played classes have an easier time getting higher winrates, since the pool isn't as polluded...

Like the fact that Dnc, brd, even Mch, EVEN DRG!!!!!!!! Has under 50%, even tho I do see a lot of them.
Dancers less and less the higher you get, because turns out, dancer just isn't that useful and 15 yalms range SUCKS for a ranged....
But Brd and Mch? I see a lot of those, what does it say about them if they are so fine?
Even Smn? Where people drop Bahamut on everything with low hp and it just kills? How do they explain that?

[geminipestdeath]

Bards getting buffed... Dalamud will shoot back up into the sky before that.

You mean, let me check the notes....

Brd, Mch, Dnc, Smn, Gnb, drg?
Since they all have less than 50%! (unironically, whm just has 1% less than some, that's literally NOTHING)

Like I won't say whm is too strong nor or anything, but have they looked at the PLAYRATES instead of the wins?
Whm is notorioulsy advertised by everybody to be op, so what do people do?
They play whm. It's beginner friendly, people like how it plays, it's the "op" one.
It draws a lot of people to it.
It is quite rare to not at least have one whm in any match given.

I will NOT believe the winrates WITHOUT how many people play it.
Because I'm almost 100% sure that whm is one, if not THE most played class in pvp.
Winrates without the actual playrates don't make any sense to show, since less played classes have an easier time getting higher winrates, since the pool isn't as polluded...

Like the fact that Dnc, brd, even Mch, EVEN DRG!!!!!!!! Has under 50%, even tho I do see a lot of them.
Dancers less and less the higher you get, because turns out, dancer just isn't that useful and 15 yalms range SUCKS for a ranged....
But Brd and Mch? I see a lot of those, what does it say about them if they are so fine?
Even Smn? Where people drop Bahamut on everything with low hp and it just kills? How do they explain that?

Look, all I'm saying:

- Warrior 48.8% winrate (Buffed)
- Gunbreaker 49.1% winrate (Buffed)
- Dragoon 49% winrate (Buffed)
- Samurai 50.4% winrate (Buffed)
- Machinist 48.6% winrate (Buffed)
- Summoner 48.5% winrate (Buffed)
- White Mage 47.4% winrate (Buffed)

......

- Bard 48.7% winrate. Unchanged.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Myon88]

The real question is why BLM isn't getting more nerfs. It has a >50% winrate despite having a stellar reputation as a strong job.

If one believes that playrates are the reason why WHM stats are so poor - it's attracting bad players - then what does that say about BLM? Unlike WHM, the job is clearly strong enough to carry these same bad players to a positive win ratio. I shudder to think of what their winrate would look like if you only looked at the stats of good BLM players.