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  1. #71
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I'm pretty sure it also works in Seal Rock, allowing you to capture the Tomeliths while everyone is fighting over them.
    Different problem as those can be retaken, while onsai is gone for good.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    I have not seen any pallys do that so at all in Sieze, probably because they would only be able to unclaim a node once it was claimed lol
    Yeah it's not as helpful in Seize because as the post above said, tomoliths can be retaken.

    It's more situational. Like let's say two teams are fighting on a node and it's kind of a stalemate and no one is able to claim the tomolith without getting interrupted. A PLD with cover could break that stalemate and turn that tomolith to their side. It would keep giving points to their team but if they lose the team battle they'd lose the tomolith.

    So it's effective, but not as effective as Onsal.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by anna-steele View Post
    please permaban all paladins exploiting cover in onsal thank you
    Just because you think they are exploiting?
    Paladin cover is working as intended, this is the threat created on May 2022 by Japanese and now it is moved to working as intended:

    Thread: ナイトのPvPアクション「ガーディアン」で護られている状態のPCが、「無垢の土地」にアクセスして契約のプログレスバーを進めていると、敵の攻撃を受けても契約が中断されない
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Different problem as those can be retaken, while onsai is gone for good.
    It actually requires 2 interaction with the node, turning first into neutral so it only creates annoying stalling.
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  5. #75
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    It actually requires 2 interaction with the node, turning first into neutral so it only creates annoying stalling.
    Depends on whether or not the node has been taken before. But generally yes, it is nowhere near as annoying as in Onsal where it just flat out wins you the entire node's resources.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Just because you think they are exploiting?
    Paladin cover is working as intended, this is the threat created on May 2022 by Japanese and now it is moved to working as intended:

    Thread: ナイトのPvPアクション「ガーディアン」で護られている状態のPCが、「無垢の土地」にアクセスして契約のプログレスバーを進めていると、敵の攻撃を受けても契約が中断されない
    This bug was reported on the EN bug report forum and marked as an accepted bug, not working as intended
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    This bug was reported on the EN bug report forum and marked as an accepted bug, not working as intended
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims
    I do see that but the game is not made by Enlgish and English team is merely a customer service to provide feedback to JP primary team
    The fact it is sitting there since April while JP one is submitted in May and already moved to Work as Intended for a while (it is on JP Work as intended, page 2 near bottom, it means it is there for a while)
    Various JP FF14 related media and site already announced this to their audience that Guardian is working as intended as well
    Trust me, this is finalized
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I do see that but the game is not made by Enlgish and English team is merely a customer service to provide feedback to JP primary team
    The fact it is sitting there since April while JP one is submitted in May and already moved to Work as Intended for a while (it is on JP Work as intended, page 2 near bottom, it means it is there for a while)
    Various JP FF14 related media and site already announced this to their audience that Guardian is working as intended as well
    Trust me, this is finalized
    Regardless whether or not it's "working as intended," there's still an increasingly large number of players who are miffed about the situation. Regardless whether or not it's been "finalized," I'd still encourage players to voice their discontent about the situation, for as long as it takes to have it changed.

    Onsal IS objectively more fun of a mode when there aren't 20 Paladins running around abusing mechanic. I'm not alone in it having been my favorite FL mode prior to the rework, and least favorite afterwards.

    And for what it's worth, any given person on the dev team could tell me they intended for the tactic to be used when deciding PLD's reworked kit and I simply would not believe them.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhemmer View Post
    Regardless whether or not it's "working as intended," there's still an increasingly large number of players who are miffed about the situation. Regardless whether or not it's been "finalized," I'd still encourage players to voice their discontent about the situation, for as long as it takes to have it changed.

    Onsal IS objectively more fun of a mode when there aren't 20 Paladins running around abusing mechanic. I'm not alone in it having been my favorite FL mode prior to the rework, and least favorite afterwards.

    And for what it's worth, any given person on the dev team could tell me they intended for the tactic to be used when deciding PLD's reworked kit and I simply would not believe them.
    You certain show your dislike but there is no necessary to as far as following:

    1. PLD is exploting
    2. PLD is cheating
    3. It is a bug
    4. Even worst, tell PLD to go to hell because of this
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I do see that but the game is not made by Enlgish
    So the people directly involved with supporting the game aren't an authority on the game itself? Do you think the EN community team is just rogue and does whatever they want?
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