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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I think a lot of people are a bit aggressive because they know how this goes and they're just tired. Not really an excuse but still.

    Pausing housing demos for these things is fine, but going even further than that is a bit much. There's a lot of complications with currencies, lost profits, blaming and whatever else that's thrown into the mix. It's one of those things where life isn't fair and chances are you'll make things worse if you try to actually make it fair.

    I also think some people are just bitter because truth be told, human suffering and awful life changing events occur constantly around the world, sometimes on a national scale but sometimes not so much. They feel bitter because people seem to pick and choose who to support.
    Honestly, I don't really care what their reasons are. It's not that hard to show a least a modicum of empathy. As I said before though, the OP is not making a small request. There's a lot of factors to consider, and I fully understand that myself, which is why both sides have valid points. One is more hostile than the other, however, and that's not really okay.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-21-2022 at 09:41 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Honestly, I don't really care what their reasons are. It's not that hard to show a least a modicum of empathy. As I said before though, the OP is not making a small request. There's a lot of factors to consider, and I fully understand that myself, which is why both sides have valid points. One is more hostile than the other, however, and that's not really okay.
    It's not happening, and it shouldnt, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Honestly, I don't really care what their reasons are. It's not that hard to show a least a modicum of empathy. As I said before though, the OP is not making a small request. There's a lot of factors to consider, and I fully understand that myself, which is why both sides have valid points. One is more hostile than the other, however, and that's not really okay.
    The problem with that is simply to where would it end? We in the western world have it pretty comfy compared to almost literally everyone else. Wars are happening everywhere almost. Square simply can't shouldn't and won't lower anything cause if they did now, then you can best bet someone will say " You did it for them!!" And BOOM. Like if they listened to OP what about the people on the other side of the war? Do they get a discount too? You see where the issue is? It simply can't be done. Plus out of all things to be worried about, FFXIV is the last thing you should be worried about when your nearby homes and streets are being bombed and shot at on the daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    The problem with that is simply to where would it end? We in the western world have it pretty comfy compared to almost literally everyone else. Wars are happening everywhere almost. Square simply can't shouldn't and won't lower anything cause if they did now, then you can best bet someone will say " You did it for them!!" And BOOM. Like if they listened to OP what about the people on the other side of the war? Do they get a discount too? You see where the issue is? It simply can't be done. Plus out of all things to be worried about, FFXIV is the last thing you should be worried about when your nearby homes and streets are being bombed and shot at on the daily.
    That was a point I made in my original post in this thread. Where they would draw the line is a legitimate concern. My main issue isn't with the OP's request, or the counter points others are providing describing the reasons this shouldn't happen. Again, there are 2 sides to this, and neither are necessarily wrong in some ways. It's the people being complete and total jerks about it that I have a problem with. lol The hostility I've seen in this thread isn't necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Didn't y'all ukrainians wanted to be a part of EU? Well, if you want to then you have to pay the same amount people in EU are paying. Also if you have the time to be in a game in a middle of war then I'm sure you'll be able to also find the money to pay for it.
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    Start a go fund me. Problem solved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    I don't follow Zepla but even with my limited exposure of her videos, I don't think it's fair to call her a boob streamer.
    I watch her all the time. She's not even that type of streamer. Just a regular gaming streamer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvinegret View Post
    Hey, I'm writing this post in an attempt to bring this issue to light mostly for the veteran players in Ukraine and people who have been financially struggling as a result of the recent conflict.
    Answer these 4 questions please OP.

    * Only your side in the war? Or all sides in all wars?
    * Should the Russian side also get the free/discounted time?
    * Should Brazillian or Columbian players get regional pricing?
    * What about natural disasters?
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    I am not sure where all the vitriol is even coming from - I went back and reread his post. He is NOT asking for free subs, or discounts. It sounds more like he is asking Square to look into the way regional pricing for subscriptions is done. Why would this be a bad thing? Would this not benefit many places, not just the Ukraine? Wouldn't it benefit places like South America if Square looked into it? It also might benefit Square itself in the form of yet more subscriptions? Just some thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyssyn View Post
    I am not sure where all the vitriol is even coming from - I went back and reread his post. He is NOT asking for free subs, or discounts. It sounds more like he is asking Square to look into the way regional pricing for subscriptions is done. Why would this be a bad thing? Would this not benefit many places, not just the Ukraine? Wouldn't it benefit places like South America if Square looked into it? It also might benefit Square itself in the form of yet more subscriptions? Just some thoughts.
    For SE it would technically be a bad thing yes. SE can't change the value of different currencies and by adjusting their pricing model to fit a currency that doesn't have a lot of value globally they'd be losing a lot of money. So there isn't a whole lot of difference in what's being asked here.
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