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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The poster they're referring to another said in an earlier comment "I have never stripped btw."
    I mean sure they have never striped but is intentionally not unlocking any other raid besides CT on a level 90 character any better, it still achieves the exact same thing of manipulating the roulette for your own benefit to the detriment of others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean sure they have never striped but is intentionally not unlocking any other raid besides CT on a level 90 character any better, it still achieves the exact same thing of manipulating the roulette for your own benefit to the detriment of others
    You don't need to unlock other content. It's not a requirement. It's OPTIONAL CONTENT. That is far from ilevel cheese.

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    It's kind of funny cause if you buy a level skip the only raids that are unlocked are the CT ones. If SE thought it was important they'd unlock the other raids and actually that would be nice if they did but they don't cause unlocking the Void series and the Invalice series is a pita.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-23-2022 at 11:18 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You don't need to unlock other content. It's not a requirement. It's OPTIONAL CONTENT. That is far from ilevel cheese.

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    It's kind of funny cause if you buy a level skip the only raids that are unlocked are the CT ones. If SE thought it was important they'd unlock the other raids and actually that would be nice if they did but they don't cause unlocking the Void series and the Invalice series is a pita.
    Yes and I’m saying intentionally not unlocking that content to bias the roulette in your favour is no better than ilvl cheesing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean sure they have never striped but is intentionally not unlocking any other raid besides CT on a level 90 character any better, it still achieves the exact same thing of manipulating the roulette for your own benefit to the detriment of others
    I mean if we're going to get into that line of thinking, then complain about people starting now who never unlock the hard modes of old school ARR dungeons. Someone not choosing to unlock given optional content is not the same as someone intentionally guiding what is supposed to be a roulette toward what they want. The first is still leaving their fate up to the game. They just have a smaller pool.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yes and I’m saying intentionally not unlocking that content to bias the roulette in your favour is no better than ilvl cheesing
    If I choose not to unlock it on an alt that is my choice and it is not ilvl cheesing. There is nothing wrong with not unlocking optional content. Sorry but you don't make the rules and you're not the litmus test for morality here. You have a problem with SE's decisions about optional content take it up with them and stop trying to assign blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I mean if we're going to get into that line of thinking, then complain about people starting now who never unlock the hard modes of old school ARR dungeons. Someone not choosing to unlock given optional content is not the same as someone intentionally guiding what is supposed to be a roulette toward what they want. The first is still leaving their fate up to the game. They just have a smaller pool.
    That’s why we have a split roulette for old capped content, in the alliance roulette we don’t, if all dungeons were on levelling and people unlocked nothing but the MSQ dungeons that would also be a problem, but it’s not because the boot scooting roulette exists
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    If I choose not to unlock it on an alt that is my choice and it is not ilvl cheesing. There is nothing wrong with not unlocking optional content. Sorry but you don't make the rules and you're not the litmus test for morality here. You have a problem with SE's decisions about optional content take it up with them and stop trying to assign blame.
    It 100% is because you are biasing what’s supposed to be an even roulette in your favour to the detriment of others, it is literally no different than ilvl cheesing
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It 100% is because you are biasing what’s supposed to be an even roulette in your favour to the detriment of others, it is literally no different than ilvl cheesing
    I don't even run alliance roulette.

    Tell me are we supposed to unlock all the raids for each xpac before we can run raid roulette too? How about all the optional dungeons for leveling roulette? What about running all guildheists for guildheist roulette? Can we get your list of what the good person is supposed to do cause I need a check sheet to be sure I follow your standards of what I'm supposed to do in a game when it comes to optional content.

    The only cheese around here is you trying to push your opinion as something people need to follow to play this game.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-23-2022 at 11:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I don't even run alliance roulette.

    Tell me are we supposed to unlock all the raids for each xpac before we can run raid roulette too? How about all the optional dungeons for leveling roulette? What about running all guildheists for guildheist roulette? Can we get your list of what the good person is supposed to do cause I need a check sheet to be sure I follow your standards of what I'm supposed to do in a game when it comes to optional content.

    The only cheese around here is you trying to push your opinion as something people need to follow to play this game.
    This comment can basically be boiled down to

    “I can’t Believe you are expecting basic competency from me”

    Yes I do expect you to unlock the omega raids at 70, unlock the optional level 50 dungeons at level 50, it’s literally that basic, 99% of them don’t even need you to complete the instance to unlock them
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “I can’t Believe you are expecting basic competency from me”
    I've got 18 characters at end game don't tell me about basic competency. I will do as I please when it comes to optional content and not worry about pleasing you.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-23-2022 at 11:53 AM.

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