Thread: 6.2 Patch Notes

I don't understand all the hate towards Aveyond. Ironically I suspect it might just be a few people who disagree and want to invalidate him by pushing his "majority of people" anecdotes. It's your responsibility to think critically of everything you read. No single piece of writing has the singular, undisputable facts no matter how many sources or data points they bring up. When someone says "majority of people don't like X" or hell even if they do claim to represent the community as a whole saying "nobody"/"everybody", you as the reader need to realize it's still just their anecdote and it's up to you to weigh its value. If you value it lowly, that's your story to tell, but it doesn't invalidate theirs.

Anyways, critical thinking 101 aside, I do agree there is a ton of neglected and out dated systems/features in the game. The devs' approach seems to be to push out more and more new content to drown out the obsolete content, but that doesn't work when players still fully engage in the obsolete content like housing, cosmetics, and MSQ. Shutting down the game to fix it would be a nuclear option, but they would definitely get value out of shifting a bit more of their attention backwards to fundamental things. They recently said they would be looking at third-party tools as references for ways to improve the game and that's a huge step in the right direction. I wouldn't underestimate the role that these third-party tools has had in this game's long term success.

technical points aside it's the holier than thou attitude that rubs people the wrong way and that it's his way or the highway demeanour.

Originally Posted by DrWho2010

technical points aside it's the holier than thou attitude that rubs people the wrong way and that it's his way or the highway demeanour.

Pretty much this. He isn't interested in discussing things, he just wants to push his opinion and that's it.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I’m more of the mind that technical limitations should be overcome rather than continuing to accept them. Innovate and improve. In other words, fix it.

I've gotten requests before that could not be handled without rewriting the laws of physics. It is not always "just fix it". If you had ever worked in any sort of technical field, you would understand that not all technical limitations can be overcome.

What they said.

His habit of "this character would be so much better if they were a completely different character" fix fic posts don't help.

It's not even good fanfic.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Pretty much this. He isn't interested in discussing things, he just wants to push his opinion and that's it.

And the passive aggressive insults to anyone who doesn't agree by trying to make it out like everything they suggest is something that those who want the game to succeed would agree are problems. Not that we're different people and have different takes on things.

Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

And the passive aggressive insults to anyone who doesn't agree by trying to make it out like everything they suggest is something that those who want the game to succeed would agree are problems. Not that we're different people and have different takes on things.

you could say that about 90% of the forum. the only difference is the topic of the thread and whos being snide.

Originally Posted by Banriikku

Good point. Then i have question: What is Island Sanctuary and what purpose/feature is entailed? Its not housing, its not an quest filled area, its not gardening in the sense of build or create something of value. So what is it ? Its disconnected from the rest of the game for what purpose ? This smells like SE does something the players wanted but in all the wrong directions or not ?

It could be just like every other self contained instance like Eureka and Bozja. Released to the wild for an expansion then maybe an adjustment or two to accommodate the post-expansion population but no real expansion of the content. Both Eureka and Bozja have marketable drops. Bozja can be used to level alt jobs.

From what we know about IS it's more akin to the Gold Saucer but without other participants. You can have spectators but if somebody wants to do IS activities they need to go to their own instance. Unless the devs have committed to adding new activities regularly I don't see the long term IS participation rate being sustainable enough to justify the expense of its development. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around them going to so much effort for what seems like a disposable feature. It is my fervent hope that IS is just a test run to see how the instancing tech it performs under load. It would go a long way to explain to me the limited feature set (less moving parts to observe), the idle timeout (less active instances), and their odd decision to gate this by EW completion (limited number of active participants). Once they're happy with how it can handle the traffic they can reduce the limitations and maybe introduce more housing like capabilities.