Thread: 6.2 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Striker44

The point is people like aveyond love to constantly claim that this mythical multitude of people out there exists, and therefore his opinion has this enormous backing and must be considered "right" and a high priority. In reality, most of the positions he takes are held by only a minuscule minority of the playerbase

What's YOUR source that the positions they take are held by only a minuscule minority of the playerbase? I want official numbers approved by polling experts now.
Because this is what this is all about, claiming that you have the moral high ground by being objective, but in the same breath you make completely baseless claims with only the same kind of anecdotal evidence the other side uses. (and having no idea how much of an hypocrite this makes you)
Why does all discussion here have to devolve into this? Just endless petty wars over whichever sides gets the more votes instead of trying to argue if the idea itself has any merits?

Originally Posted by Kazhar

What's YOUR source that the positions they take are held by only a minuscule minority of the playerbase? I want official numbers approved by polling experts now.
Because this is what this is all about, claiming that you have the moral high ground by being objective, but in the same breath you make completely baseless claims with only the same kind of anecdotal evidence the other side uses. (and having no idea how much of an hypocrite this makes you)
Why does all discussion here have to devolve into this? Just endless petty wars over whichever sides gets the more votes instead of trying to argue if the idea itself has any merits?

I think what it all boils down to is this. Take everything everyone says on the internet with a huge grain of salt.

Originally Posted by Striker44

A mix of two things:

1.) Numerous actual polls on various social media and by SE garnering immensely more votes than the people we see on these forums. It was hilarious watching the absolute "shock" of certain people a few weeks ago on here when it was revealed the Scions are actually very popular. The one from last week showing EW is the 2nd most popular expansion is up there, too. Or the one from a while back showing how much of a fanbase Minifilia has.

2.) Practically every other site on the internet. Check around YT and look up videos on practically anything about EW - the story, the soundtrack, etc.. Here, you'll see the same dozen or so names popping up over and over again complaining. There, you'll see hundreds of _different_ people overwhelmingly praising the game. Or heck, even Reddit - usually a cesspool of negativity - is far and away very positive about the game and EW in particular. And once again, the unique voices you'll see there dwarf anything you see here.

The "side that gets more votes" matters when something is lopsided, because it would be a horrible business decision to risk alienating the large majority of your playerbase just to satisfy the never-satisfied whims of a small group of people posting 24/7 on the forums.

Understandable but however they are not official. the best way for se to get data is actual doing a survey to the player base.

Originally Posted by Kazhar

What's YOUR source that the positions they take are held by only a minuscule minority of the playerbase? I want official numbers approved by polling experts now.
Because this is what this is all about, claiming that you have the moral high ground by being objective, but in the same breath you make completely baseless claims with only the same kind of anecdotal evidence the other side uses. (and having no idea how much of an hypocrite this makes you)
Why does all discussion here have to devolve into this? Just endless petty wars over whichever sides gets the more votes instead of trying to argue if the idea itself has any merits?

Good point. Then i have question: What is Island Sanctuary and what purpose/feature is entailed? Its not housing, its not an quest filled area, its not gardening in the sense of build or create something of value. So what is it ? Its disconnected from the rest of the game for what purpose ? This smells like SE does something the players wanted but in all the wrong directions or not ?

Originally Posted by Banriikku

Good point. Then i have question: What is Island Sanctuary and what purpose/feature is entailed? Its not housing, its not an quest filled area, its not gardening in the sense of build or create something of value. So what is it ? Its disconnected from the rest of the game for what purpose ? This smells like SE does something the players wanted but in all the wrong directions or not ?

Possible, but all we have seen so far are a few vids and reviews. It could be somthing new. We cannot judge it until its playable. Personally speaking I think it looks fun. Nice new gameplay loop to enjoy and spend time on, though am dissapointed it will not have much of a story it seems. Sound like we will get minion/mount/glam rewards too. It may not be the housing/gardening oppitunity some of us hoped, but then they never said it would be. Plus this is somthing they can hopefully add to as the patchs go on, perhaps even add fetures players want like what I just said and teleportation ect.

Originally Posted by Restonance

"Oh we don't want you using any mods" as they add in a feature that a UI mod has had for god knows how long.

I disagree that mods should be seen as the evil SE makes them out to be sometimes, but is it not a good thing to add features that people wanted into the base UI? Especially for us console users who do not even have access to mods in the first place.