Thread: 6.2 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Theodric

I think if people don't want FFXIV to go in the same direction as WoW then they should not be stifling criticism at every turn or praising the development team in such a way as to pretend as if everything they do is the best thing ever. That's exactly the attitude that contributed heavily to WoW's fall from grace. Not the only reason by any means but still worth noting.

Precisely this. It is incredibly frustrating trying to advocate for improvements and additions when there are players who belittle me, calling me lazy for wanting direct teleportation access to Island Sanctuary from the beginning, ungrateful or telling me to "wait and see" again for expecting more in the hair department (despite knowing full well what has happened with Viera and Hrothgar in the last 2 years), and so on. I want this game to be good. I am not asking for these things because I'm the bad guy in this situation. I wish people understood this.

Originally Posted by Nezerius

Moving goalposts. Your initial post with the Lost Ark hairstyle image doesn't mention anything about the "quality appropriate to 2022", nor does it have anything more than frontal shots of hairstyles. With the ones being posted by TaleraRistain definitely looking similar.

It's also kinda silly to expect a 2013 game to have "quality appropriate to 2022" while comparing it to a game that released over 6 years later.

Also, most of WoW's hairstyles available to players look terrible.

Agree to disagree. I do not think they look similar in that Lost Ark’s are of higher texture quality (for both men and women) and are a lot longer than FFXIV’s female hairstyles as I later went on to show. I expect for the game to improve and be bolder with its hairstyle designs in 2022, same as how they’ve been making some better-looking gearsets in late Shadowbringers and Endwalker compared to the quality of gear back in Heavensward and Stormblood.



I also disagree that most of WoW’s hairstyles look terrible. Take male Blood Elves for example, whose character creation I can access through WoWhead’s dressing room. These are the sort of hairstyles I would expect of a high fantasy elf from the start, but FFXIV’s starter options for male Elezen are nowhere near as interesting than these in my opinion. This and other WoW races also have customizable facial hair options, something for which FFXIV has only updated once when Endwalker launched and stubble was added exclusively to Midlanders.



Female Void Elves in that game also have some impressive long hairstyles, many of which I would gladly use over much of the default and unlockable female hairstyles in FFXIV. Why is it that a game as old as WoW creating hairs such as these while FFXIV refuses to do so for players? Despite the limits of that game’s textures/art style at least they seem to be more willing to try rather than playing it safe. Meanwhile FFXIV creates hairstyles like Venat’s only for it to remain inaccessible to us? I feel that given how much time has passed, FFXIV needs to consider a new direction in terms of hairstyles. It is time to push the bar in terms of creativity and fantasy for both genders rather than continuing to create more of the same. While I have no doubts that some players will be pleased with the two hairstyles that were previewed for this patch, I think that in 2022 we should be seeing better.

I believe that these customization issues are still more important issue than removing gender-locks on mogstation items.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I do not think they look similar in that Lost Ark’s are of higher texture quality (for both men and women) and are a lot longer than FFXIV’s female hairstyles as I later went on to show. I expect for the game to improve and be bolder with its hairstyle designs in 2022, same as how they’ve been making some better-looking gearsets in late Shadowbringers and Endwalker compared to the quality of gear back in Heavensward and Stormblood

Your initial post was literally just you posting some random Lost Ark hairstyles. Nothing about whether you were talking about texture quality, or length. Hence, moving goalposts. I also find it hilarious that you're almost praising WoW's hairstyles, while posting a set of hairstyles that were modeled nearly a decade ago (the Void Elf ones being minor adjustments to the Blood Elf ones).

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I also disagree that most of WoW’s hairstyles look terrible.

I'll just copy what you enjoy typing so much "Agree to disagree".
Having played both MMOs for 7+ years, I've changed my hairstyle in XIV significantly more often than I have in WoW, simply because most races only have a few decent hairstyles.

Oh, and you should know that the ponytail hairstyle is the last one to be added from a community-voted hairstyle design contest, with player-submitted hair designs. In fact, there's a total of 11 hairstyles from the same contest already available ingame. So a good chunk of hairstyles weren't even designed by the company that you're complaining about.

EDIT: To add, before you go on another typing spree. No, I don't think XIV is some perfect game without flaws. The game definitely has room for improvement in several areas, texture quality being one of them. However, it's a bit silly to complain about that, considering Yoshi-P has already announced a significant texture update coming in 7.0.