Thread: 6.2 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Theodric

TESO places a heavy focus on player housing, makes it available to every player who desires to indulge in the system, every house acquired is accessible on any character on one's account and once you unlock it you can take a break for months or even years and still find it intact upon returning to the game.

That's not even getting into the sheer variety of houses on offer in terms of size and style or the many different furnishings on offer to suit a wide variety of tastes.

I'm sure some of the usual suspects will downplay the appeal of player housing because they, themselves, don't care for it but it strikes me as very disingenuous to pretend as if it isn't a highly popular feature in a game such as this and as such more should be done to make it accessible to every player who desires it.

I say this as someone lucky enough to own a large and a medium, so it's not a case of being salty because I don't have one myself.

I hate to say it but I would prefer a cash shop situation, like ESO, than the restricted both in gameplay terms but also actual availability that we have here... Of course I'd prefer no cash shop and a perfect system the most, but wish in one hand and collect chocobo turds in the other . On the more hopeful end though, I am excited for both the initial experience of Island Sanctuary but also the potential future of it (like adding an inn room cottage that is pre-fab would be a great start, but further in the future you might start to see housing like options).

I do like to say that I believe fixing the situation would likely be an extremely difficult accomplishment, but of course do not mind saying I wish it to be done anyways (though I wouldn't suggest it's easy lol). Or, and I feel I've 'felt' hints of this possibility in some time to come... in a new MMO. Given many differences between this hypothetical MMO and FFXIV it might be seen as possible to play both and have enough feeling difference that they don't actually, entirely, cannibalize each other.

For example using Yoshida's sly comments (I strongly believe he is a planner and also to take his musing as serious musing, even if they might be planned for years in the future)-- this new one would be more modern and drop in / drop out 'able'. In some ways to me it sounds a bit like if FFXIV was inspired by WoW then the new one would be both inspired by FFXIV's experience, what didn't fit but could be cool, and also perhaps for example GW2/ESO. Of course the goal in both situations shouldn't be "WoW-killer" or "copy that MMO exactly", but to me I imagine the 'new MMO' would likely be far more action, account wide, etc. Might even be more monetized like those games, where there is less burden for monthly but more cash shop. Which I don't say with glee, but that would further help them standout from each other and allow more likely for players to play both.

If we assume, it's a big assumption but I believe is not unreasonable either, that the new games coming out are able to help inform the next MMO- like FFXII did.. then we might also look at FFXVI and perhaps Forspoken as well. I would also imagine PvP might take a stronger stand here too, given the (huge freaking assumptions) of faster smoother combat and also Yoshida's own predilections. Personally I also think PvP is always a great way to extend the life of a game, since no matter how much PvE you add or how hard you try it gets really hard to make it not feel the same as before (and I feel is a common aspect of old MMOs where people just start to comment more and more about how things should feel fresh again but it's almost impossible to do... meanwhile PvP can feel fresh for much much longer, I believe). It would also line up with one of GW2's major pro's, given we're swinging wildly in the clouds already I would suggest that.

Certainly playing Nostradamus here, but given my not terrible predication rate.. this is my guess for the future lol. ... So I'm not sure FFXIV will get these, both due to difficulty but also because it would be another bullet to add in the differences between the two. If they essentially made "FFXIV, ARR part two" then I would imagine FFXIV would take significant impact.. so my thought that there will be intentional differences and use of resources that is attempting to be as efficient as possible.

Huge imo / assumptions, please bring all the salt.. only vaguely based on, imo, hints I've seen dropped and my feeling to read between those lines with mysticism and vibin' lol.

I stand by my opinion that I'd be ok with FFXIV going offline for a year if it came back with instanced housing for every player, a better glamour system with no storage restrictions, and overall less technical debt. They've had 10 years to solve some of these problems and as someone who has been here since day 1 of ARR I'm kinda tired of hearing the same excuses repeated over and over as to why we can't have nice things. It's time to actually fix them.

I stand by my opinion that I'd be ok with FFXIV going offline for a year

- Game goes offline for a year

- Revenue plummets

- No funding from other games as they have their own budgets.

- No revenue from FF 14 means no money, means no salaries, means they start laying staff off, means the people you want to do this stuff leave to find other employment..when they finally get back to restarting..those staff are long gone, working elsewhere and cant be recovered, as they are now in new jobs, sure as hell wont quit their new job to come back to a company that laid them off in the first place.

- You cant hand money from other games teams over to FF 14 as that has to be signed off by the CFO and CEO..who allocate budgets for each project , guess what, never the twain shall meet.

If the game shuts down, wheres the money going to come from to keep these staff?

The money from the game pays the salaries of the people you want to not work for a year.

Except that people have been trying to get me to not talk about these issues in this and other threads. I'm going to continue bringing them up, especially when I feel that they should take priority over some of the stuff we're seeing coming this patch. You don't have to agree with what I say, and that's ok. I just want things to improve and be better than they are now.

There has been a lot of behavior that isn't conducive to productive discussion that I've noticed from the same handful of people, and it's honestly pretty tiring. If you want to interpret what I say as absolute statements of fact then that's out of my hands. If you want to demand that I provide specific sources for everything I say, you can do that but I'm under no obligation to go further deep into what are just general observations both in and out of the game.

I want FFXIV to be successful. I dislike the way that my well-intentioned suggestions are met with such resistance. I truly believe that if it were Zepla or MrHappy saying some of these suggestions that there wouldn't nearly be as much pushback against them. I am hoping that patch 6.2 does well but I've noticed some things that give me pause and have me concerned. It's ok if you're fine with how things are shaping up to be, but that doesn't give you the right to shut me down for asking for improvements.