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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I don't know didn't he say things about NPC's and that some of them would receive the update and we'd have to wait for others? What graphics would they be talking about if it wasn't a character optimization? I do believe they want to be careful about changing characters because we've become attached to those we have although I'm not sure textures and the like wouldn't be included in an update.

    If you have a link to those comments I'd be happy to read them.
    I don't have a source but the player who told me that is the same person who posts the famitsu translations on reddit so I'd say they're reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I don't have a source but the player who told me that is the same person who posts the famitsu translations on reddit so I'd say they're reliable.
    I'm open to wait and see. I didn't even expect them to upgrade the graphics it was a pleasant surprise when they announced it in a live letter. I don't get the NPC comments if they're not character related because that's basically what NPC's are. He even apologized of sorts saying sorry we'll have to wait on some and to be patient.

    After all is said and done I think FF characters and animations are beautiful. We shall see what comes but I'm optimistic we'll get some major improvements to the game overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm open to wait and see. I didn't even expect them to upgrade the graphics it was a pleasant surprise when they announced it in a live letter. I don't get the NPC comments if they're not character related because that's basically what NPC's are. He even apologized of sorts saying sorry we'll have to wait on some and to be patient.

    After all is said and done I think FF characters and animations are beautiful. We shall see what comes but I'm optimistic we'll get some major improvements to the game overall.
    The source I believe he is referring to is from here:

    He can’t give a firm yes or no answer to whether there will be more character customisation options, but says in terms of workload this is difficult to implement alongside the graphics update.
    I believe it was repeated elsewhere as well but I haven't noted where. My understanding is to upgrade CC they'd require more fundamental engine overhauls (to the point that I am sure Yoshi wishes he could do a new MMO - even adding the stubblelander option took adding a new face pick), and the changes will mostly be limited to lighting/shading/texture quality and animations. Likewise, there's no plans to address clipping given the requirement for implementing a physics engine and so it will simply be something to be tolerated given the work involved to rectify it.

    Will the planned upgrades (taking the game just a bit past a 2013 game; Yoshi has described the game graphics tech as being two generations behind in the past) last the game into 2032 (assuming a 10 year go forward life span)? Who can say... who even knows what competitors they'll have by then. I wasn't expecting it either, to be honest, although he had given some hints that they were going to work on the texture upgrade in the past, but frankly I don't see how they could put off doing it indefinitely whilst this remains their flagship MMO. He did say that what was shown was just from the first month's worth of testing, so I'll watch how it evolves with interest.

    Regarding NPCs, the plan seems to do a partial upgrade of these by 7.0, and those that do rely on options straightforwardly available to players will be updated along with the player characters, whereas some others will be left until later, albeit they will be undertaking some prioritisation of some key NPCs.

    As for WoW, which I saw some discussion of here, it is much older (yeah, it's had some touch ups too), relies on a cartoonish style as opposed to XIV's more 'realistic' style, and yet still manages to have what I'd consider to be better longer hair styles. I also prefer the degree to which the game is able to realise a sense of each race having a strong "fantasy", i.e. highly distinctive aesthetic characterising it, e.g. with its racial gear/zones. I am glad to see some other MMO contenders are planning on featuring something like it.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 08-21-2022 at 04:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Your initial post was literally just you posting some random Lost Ark hairstyles. Nothing about whether you were talking about texture quality, or length. Hence, moving goalposts. I also find it hilarious that you're almost praising WoW's hairstyles, while posting a set of hairstyles that were modeled nearly a decade ago (the Void Elf ones being minor adjustments to the Blood Elf ones).
    And I still find these older hairstyles more serving to the theme of fantasy and uniqueness than some of the hairstyles we’ve been getting in FFXIV. Just because I don't bring something up that I care about in my initial post doesn't mean I can't talk about it later on if I choose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I'll just copy what you enjoy typing so much "Agree to disagree".
    Having played both MMOs for 7+ years, I've changed my hairstyle in XIV significantly more often than I have in WoW, simply because most races only have a few decent hairstyles.
    This is not an argument against the addition of better hairstyles. It is a statement in support of them, so that the both of us can have more to choose from that is to our liking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Oh, and you should know that the ponytail hairstyle is the last one to be added from a community-voted hairstyle design contest, with player-submitted hair designs. In fact, there's a total of 11 hairstyles from the same contest already available ingame. So a good chunk of hairstyles weren't even designed by the company that you're complaining about.
    There are people to this day who feel that the hairstyle design contest was a bad idea in retrospect, and that some of those hairstyles weren’t recreated as faithfully as they could’ve been. It has also taken an unusually long time to finish implementing them all, with the ones that we have received outside of these still falling in line with gender neutral, short to mid-length styles that both genders are complaining about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    EDIT: To add, before you go on another typing spree. No, I don't think XIV is some perfect game without flaws. The game definitely has room for improvement in several areas, texture quality being one of them. However, it's a bit silly to complain about that, considering Yoshi-P has already announced a significant texture update coming in 7.0.
    A texture upgrade isn’t going to change how long or how unique these pre-existing styles are. New hairs tailored to the wants of each gender however would do something to remedy the current situation. If they would have to be locked to their respective genders, then that is a trade off I'm willing to accept.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 08-20-2022 at 10:22 PM.
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    There are people to this day who feel that the hairstyle design contest was a bad idea in retrospect,
    ...and those people were...who exactly? Who said that? Where?

    Source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...and those people were...who exactly? Who said that? Where?

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    You're practically fuming in here. It's honestly fun to watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    You're practically fuming in here. It's honestly fun to watch
    Nope. Not at all. Im actually enjoying some lamingtons and coffee whilst waiting for a friend on discord..but again, I am asking Aveyond to expand on who, aside from him, "feel that the hairstyle design contest was a bad idea in retrospect". He has made these sweeping statements before..with nothing to back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...and those people were...who exactly? Who said that? Where?

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    Actually there were quite a few players complaining about how vague SE ended up being about the voting process. The notification that it only took the last entry that the player pressed the like button on wasn't added until some time into the voting period.

    However, I think a good chunk of the listed hairstyles would've ended up winning anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...and those people were...who exactly? Who said that? Where?

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    I don't want to inject myself into their duel of words and wits, but I guess I'll say that I have the nuanced stance of "The contest wasn't a bad idea, but I'm against doing a 2nd contest for hair".

    The results from the contest were def not the most interesting of choices, my faith on this community to vote on things has been shot.

    At MOST, I'd be down for them having a contest and the DEVS picking which they like and will do.
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    I think Vel and Aveyond have truly found each other. They make perfect argument partners.
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