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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Stuff about hair
    Moving goalposts. Your initial post with the Lost Ark hairstyle image doesn't mention anything about the "quality appropriate to 2022", nor does it have anything more than frontal shots of hairstyles. With the ones being posted by TaleraRistain definitely looking similar.

    It's also kinda silly to expect a 2013 game to have "quality appropriate to 2022" while comparing it to a game that released over 6 years later.

    Also, most of WoW's hairstyles available to players look terrible.
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    We're getting graphic upgrades have to wait and see to what extent things will be improved. Got to love the negativist comparing a newly released game to one that is 10 years old. Perhaps wait and see what the upgrades bring and then complain.

    Overall FFXIV looks great in 4k on my system so I'm still pretty happy.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-20-2022 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Perhaps wait and see what the upgrades bring and then complain.
    After what happened when Viera and Hrothgar's original benchmark was released and people said to just "wait and see" only for them to go without new hairstyles for 2 years, I think I will continue calling attention to the issues I think matter. It isn't in my interest to remain silent. Given that you yourself are using a hairstyle that was added to Viera in 6.0, it is clear that improvements to female character customization are also in your benefit. The time to improve things should always be as problems are noticed, rather than waiting for them to fully manifest.
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    Yet still, they keep adding gender locked gear/variants :s
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Yet still, they keep adding gender locked gear/variants :s
    Not really, most treasure maps glamour no more genderlock (see: varsity glams)
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    The time to improve things should always be as problems are noticed, rather than waiting for them to fully manifest.
    They will be, but as you should know, other matters have to take priority. I have no doubt it will be addressed in due time.

    BTW thanks for the laugh, comparing WOWs 18 year old engine, out of date, bugridden and incapable of staying online without a regular maintenance every week to FF 14 is ludicrous. FF 14 is fa5r superior in almost every regard.

    Graphically, both in terms of the actual systems, UI and character creation, WOW is in dire need of its own Calamity and a new engine with better customisation options. Hell, the older Unreal engines could do a far better job.

    So please, spare me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    14 is fa5r superior in almost every regard.
    I disagree. I wouldn't say any MMO on the market is 'superior in every way' at the moment. There's things some do better than others, certainly, but for the most part it comes down to personal preference and subjectivity.

    Blizzard may have badly mishandled WoW over the years for various reasons but at its height it maintained ten million active subscribers. Has FFXIV even reached half of that? A quarter?

    I think if people don't want FFXIV to go in the same direction as WoW then they should not be stifling criticism at every turn or praising the development team in such a way as to pretend as if everything they do is the best thing ever. That's exactly the attitude that contributed heavily to WoW's fall from grace. Not the only reason by any means but still worth noting.
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    "May have?". LMAO.

    At its height, sure. It had a load of players, agreed. But they managed to LOSE a huge swathe of those, didnt they?

    Lets remember that one word, shall we?

    HAD

    Past tense.

    The correct benchmark of any company isnt what they used to have, its what they manage to RETAIN. THAT is the actual metric.

    They faffed around so much, screwed their customers over so bad that they quit in disgust. In DROVES. Up until two years ago no one had even heard the words "wow refugee". WOW used to be a big game, it used to have a massive subscriber base, it used to do this, it used to do that.

    Where are these people now, hm? Gone.

    WoD was so bad, so utterly tone deaf to what the players actually wanted vs the devs "vision" that they lost HALF their playerbase in four months. The later flight debacle cost them at least two million more, despite the copium sniffers claiming " no one quits WOW they always come back", those players did not return.

    WoWs developers ignore, and continue to ignore even today with their brand new expac alpha, what their players want. They ask for feedback.then ignore all of it

    Heres a corollary..if you are applying for a job and learn they have a high turnover in staff....RUN.

    WoWs customer churn rate is now so bad that they are busily connecting servers, activating crossfaction systems in a frantic effort to consolidate whats left of a disintegrating playerbase that has had enough of their garbage...and lol, I am told that yes, despite the playerbase getting older and sick and tired of the same rubbish, it will be more recycled "If you dont raid, pvp, or do m plus, GTFO we dont want you"

    Why does WOW have so many addons?

    Answer: Their UI is 19 years old and obsolete. FF 14s UI back when I started in 2019 had more basic functionality than WOWs and I didnt have to download a ton of addons to get it to do things it should by DEFAULT.

    In FF 14 you have to approve a friend request for them to contact you and send you mail. In WOW a stalker can just add you as a friend and track you anywhere they want and you will never know it. put them on ignore and they just shift to a different toon and do it again..and again..and again....in 2012 they promised an appear offline system to add a basic privacy function FF 14 has by default.

    It took them five years to admit that the delays they were saying were problems were in fact a lie, as one of their engineers admitted they could do it anytime, they just didnt want to.

    Its an axiom of business that it is far more expensive proposition to get new customers, than it is to keep them. If you CANNOT keep your customer base, if word of mouth is so bad that your customers that you spent so much on to obtain walk out the door...

    You

    Have

    FAILED.


    I am sorry, but my assessment of the massive limitations of WOWs 19 year old engine and its outdated customisation stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    We're getting graphic upgrades have to wait and see to what extent things will be improved. Got to love the negativist comparing a newly released game to one that is 10 years old. Perhaps wait and see what the upgrades bring and then complain.

    Overall FFXIV looks great in 4k on my system so I'm still pretty happy.
    They never implied that the graphical update would bring more than anything they already explitely showed. Yoshi-P actually said the opposite in an interview: we shouldn't expect meaningful changes to CC for 7.0 since the graphical update is already an huge undertaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    They never implied that the graphical update would bring more than anything they already explitely showed. Yoshi-P actually said the opposite in an interview: we shouldn't expect meaningful changes to CC for 7.0 since the graphical update is already an huge undertaking.
    I don't know didn't he say things about NPC's and that some of them would receive the update and we'd have to wait for others? What graphics would they be talking about if it wasn't a character optimization? I do believe they want to be careful about changing characters because we've become attached to those we have although I'm not sure textures and the like wouldn't be included in an update.

    If you have a link to those comments I'd be happy to read them.
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