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  1. #11
    Player
    Fleyon's Avatar
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    Feb 2012
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    Gridania
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    24
    Character
    Fleyon Lyeacia
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    Let's also not forget chainsaw's 3% insta-kill proc. There's basically no counter to this either, it's pure chance for it to happen and getting killed from it feels extremely cheap.

    As for the Sam LB with people saying that you can play around it and just not hit a Sam with their shield up. Yeah, sort of but not always. With the way lag and server ticks work, it's entirely possible to get screwed regardless of how well you pay attention. You can somewhat game the slow tickrate and crappy netcode to time chiten at the same time as an enemy's attack to force them to hit you and them getting the debuff, leading to some really cheap kills. The chiten + LB combo is fine in theory, but in practice it's poorly applied because of how sluggish the game engine can be.
    It cuts both ways (no pun intended). The server tick sometimes means your LB hits after Kuzushi expires or the other player gets out of range. It's actually a very fine line and I've had occasions where the LB completely whiffs even when I can see Kuzushi land and I'm right in the middle of people.
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  2. #12
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    drtasteyummy's Avatar
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    Character
    Vitalic Oni
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    You can only really nerf burst if you rework Paladin guard and introduce healing reduction with certain spells. Right now, there are so many situations where if you can't burst someone out of existence it's gonna be guard, into defensive, into healpot, into paladin guard, into healer heal, into self heal, into healer heal, into self heal, into self heal, into guard, into paladin guard it's ridiculous how long a player can stay alive while being aggressive. Their idea of creating a non meta, where they don't have to care about comps just to throw everything overboard with paladin guard and healers just speaks for itself on how much experience the pvp team must have. Ultimately, this lead to a lot of games being resource fights rather than being smart or react at the right time.
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 08-20-2022 at 11:42 PM.

  3. #13
    Player
    Osmond's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Danielle Osmond
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    If it’s not broken then the game isn’t fun to play. Sometimes you got to figure out how to solve that puzzle.
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  4. #14
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    Dreadz's Avatar
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    Character
    Anri Khatayin
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Boy-howdy, I sure wish Guard worked reliably against MCH's LB, getting two tapped from ranged is pretty stupid.
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  5. #15
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    *weeps in BLM LB*
    It's powerful sure but it's like driving a manual car when everyone else is using tiptronics.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  6. #16
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    Karasio's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Silver Faye
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    Boy-howdy, I sure wish Guard worked reliably against MCH's LB, getting two tapped from ranged is pretty stupid.
    That's the day they introduce actually good netcode LMAO. Running a frame-intense pvp game mode on the same tick rate as all of pve is just straight up fucking dumb.
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  7. #17
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    Nanne's Avatar
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    Character
    Piush Stumbleine
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadz View Post
    Boy-howdy, I sure wish Guard worked reliably against MCH's LB, getting two tapped from ranged is pretty stupid.
    But it isn't supposed to even work against it. If you have the LB animation appear on top of you it has already snapshotted. Only way to Guard that is predicting it or the MCH having a terrible luck with the server tick
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  8. #18
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    Dreadz's Avatar
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    Character
    Anri Khatayin
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    But it isn't supposed to even work against it. If you have the LB animation appear on top of you it has already snapshotted. Only way to Guard that is predicting it or the MCH having a terrible luck with the server tick
    If guarding on reaction to a ranged LB that does more than 50% of my HP isn't the right call, then whoever is in charge of balancing is much worse than I previously thought.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Easley Lighthalzen
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I have no problem with those dumb skills like Samurai LB, Chainsaw, and Ninja LB. My only gripe is that EVERYONE else should get it. Literally some jobs are so useless on FL and that if I see those in my alliance, I already know the match will lose.
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  10. #20
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    Solaires's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Meroko Yui
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I agree the new pvp adjustments have been extremely unbalanced. No MCH skill should one shot you through a shield as example. 3% rng is a joke as it is often.
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