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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It’ll be a nightmare to apply.

    There had been multiple threads requesting or at least hinting a desire to access their kits even in lowest dungeon. & countless times being told why it’s just straight up bad. But here’s one of the more recent & one from many: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-in-dungeons

    Take your time. (Or not)
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 08-19-2022 at 01:50 AM.

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    It’ll be a nightmare to apply.

    There had been multiple threads requesting or at least hinting a desire to access their kits even in lowest dungeon. & countless times being told why it’s just straight up bad. But here’s one of the more recent & one from many: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-in-dungeons

    Take your time. (Or not)

    I mean alternatively they could just design classes with the intent that they can be played at lv 50.

    But then skills are made for expansion padding, not for making jobs feel complete so....yeah cant interfere with profit
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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I think it would be better if perhaps a few more core skills came into play earlier in the jobs life... and I am not just saying that because a one button AOE with classes like DRG is HELL for far too long... but also I am.
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Hard pass. Dungeons are faceroll enough as it is, if they did this I would be able to solo most of the lower ones synced.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    White Mage Lv 100
    What would stop speedrun minded players from kicking a tank for not having an invuln or a DPS for not having AOE because they're too low level to have those skills?
    People already do whatever they can to clear roulettes as fast as possible so that would definitely add another layer of friction between sprouts and players levelling alt jobs, and people on their main jobs.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 08-19-2022 at 02:12 AM.

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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    What would stop speedrun minded players from kicking a tank for not having an invuln or a DPS for not having AOE because they're too low level to have those skills?
    People already do whatever they can to clear roulettes as fast as possible so that would definitely add another layer of friction between sprouts and players levelling alt jobs, and people on their main jobs.
    A trip to the jail and a ban.

    also Dragoon/Lancer get first aoe at 40 and I never heard about lancer/dragoon being kicked before Stone Vigil.
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    Last edited by Sesera; 08-19-2022 at 03:11 AM.

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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Where's my tally board for the amount of times this has been discussed to death.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Reaper Lv 90
    The mistake was and will always be the tacking on of stuff ever new addon...

    If they would work more with the abilities to upgrade skills over the levels we could actually start on lower levels with a fuller kit, so the sync would not hit as hard... so we could at least keep roughly the same skills, just weaker and keep the updated look for high level players... Yes it a lot of work but would've been easy if they went that way right away... instead of adding gimmick #50... or job meters for the sake of it...

    But entering a lower level duty and not even having aoe is just pain.... its not just about speed, it just feels wrong...
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    But entering a lower level duty and not even having aoe is just pain.... []it just feels wrong...
    I just got this evil vision of SE adding trash mobs to higher-level dungeons that have a high resistance to AoE attacks, and therefor have to be single-targeted to kill - or even build agro on! Large packs of such trash mobs.

    W2W this, Leroy Jenkins! Heh heh heh.
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Curemefi View Post
    In my opinion, the scaling on skills is enough. It would be much more fun if we can still keep all the skills while level syncing. What is your opinion?
    This is how Everquest 2 did level syncing. However, I would sync down to level 20 on my cleric, then go and solo a level 30 dungeon. It didn't work out well and just became a tool for powerleveling.
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