Will casters/healers ever get non-robe sets?

**Eraden** · 08-19-2022 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by hagare

Now if only SE would make these sets dyeable. I'm particularly fond of the Warg set. I've been using pieces of it from time to time for my glams.

**hagare** · 08-19-2022 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Eraden

Now if only SE would make these sets dyeable. I'm particularly fond of the Warg set. I've been using pieces of it from time to time for my glams.

if only they make a lot of sets dyeable

**Gemina** · 08-19-2022 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by hagare

From what I can tell, most of these are dungeon sets, and of those many are entirely RNG to obtain. Also, dungeons sets (except alliance raids) are usually not exhibited in LLs or patch notes, so a lot of players don't even know they exist. That's not to discount their existence, but part of the issue is the dev's insistence on wrapping towels around their casters and healers when they announce new items.

**Sequora** · 08-19-2022 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bad_Luck

There are plenty of available sets that aren't robes or gowns. Or maybe there's a misunderstanding of what robes and gowns are here?

I consider any chest piece that covers up my entire body so that the only other thing I can see is maybe the bottom of my boots and maybe my gloves to be a robe.

Extra points if my entire figure if my body is a mystery as well.

**Vrankyl** · 08-19-2022 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by hagare

I would argue that some of these fall in the 'robe' category such as the Radiant set. An armored robe is still a robe. Not to mention several of those are repeats on that list so it makes it look a bit larger than it really is. Bonewicca and Manusya sets are identical as are the Neo-Ishgardian and Ophiotauroskin sets. No one is saying that they don't exist, but that the sheer number of robe-like glams so vastly out numbers the non robe-like glams that it is getting old.

Most of the time we're lucky if a single released set in a patch isn't a robe. Generally we end up with 2 out of the 3 sets being robe-like if we're lucky, if we're not (such as this time) then it is 3/3 on the robe-likes. It just gets old, especially when you have classes like RDM that are not in the Robe-like aesthetic at all. One could argue that they'd be better off sharing set designs with Striking or Scouting.

**OgruMogru** · 08-19-2022 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I would argue that some of these fall in the 'robe' category such as the Radiant set. An armored robe is still a robe. Not to mention several of those are repeats on that list so it makes it look a bit larger than it really is. Bonewicca and Manusya sets are identical as are the Neo-Ishgardian and Ophiotauroskin sets. No one is saying that they don't exist, but that the sheer number of robe-like glams so vastly out numbers the non robe-like glams that it is getting old.

Most of the time we're lucky if a single released set in a patch isn't a robe. Generally we end up with 2 out of the 3 sets being robe-like if we're lucky, if we're not (such as this time) then it is 3/3 on the robe-likes. It just gets old, especially when you have classes like RDM that are not in the Robe-like aesthetic at all. One could argue that they'd be better off sharing set designs with Striking or Scouting.

Agreed on the radiant set! It's nose to toe - just like a robe even though people could argue it's a coat or a jacket. It's a big cone XD

Several of those repeats came very close together as well which was disappointing. No problem with reusing gear in principle, but why weren't these sets shuffled for different classes? If you consider raid/tome/crafted sets - a big goal for a lot of players - the vast majority of them are full length garments. This limits glam and it alienates the casters whose job identity doesn't really include that big lampshade silhouette. It also gets in the way of them making gearsets that look unified as a whole. I keep going on about it but consider the new crafted set. The stripey sleeves. It's beautiful! It's the glam of my dreams! The casting sets do not even adhere to the same aesthetic. There is no unifying design element between them its just more of the same for no logical reason.

**Rilifane** · 08-19-2022 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I would argue that some of these fall in the 'robe' category such as the Radiant set. An armored robe is still a robe. Not to mention several of those are repeats on that list so it makes it look a bit larger than it really is. Bonewicca and Manusya sets are identical as are the Neo-Ishgardian and Ophiotauroskin sets. No one is saying that they don't exist, but that the sheer number of robe-like glams so vastly out numbers the non robe-like glams that it is getting old.

Most of the time we're lucky if a single released set in a patch isn't a robe. Generally we end up with 2 out of the 3 sets being robe-like if we're lucky, if we're not (such as this time) then it is 3/3 on the robe-likes. It just gets old, especially when you have classes like RDM that are not in the Robe-like aesthetic at all. One could argue that they'd be better off sharing set designs with Striking or Scouting.

And adding to this, some tops have the nasty habit of suddenly turning into a ballgown when worn by a female character.
I personally love the Radiant set because it's an armored robe and has more of a battle cleric feel for me and we only have few options for this style but as you said, it's still a robe that covers the majority of the legs/ feet even with a frontal view and the two slits. The Asphodeles set also has a very dress-like look about it even with the bigger slits and covers everything at the back.

What we primarily lack are sets with a top that simply ends at the hip, no butt capes, no semi dresses. Something where you can fully or mostly see the legs front, back and side. For both genders, no turning it into a another dress when worn by a female character. There do exist a few options but they are very limited to compared to the insane amount of robes/ dresses/ butt capes with a short front cape we have and it doesn't help that some of them have a very distinct style so they're a difficult to combine and not as versatile.
The Serge top and the YorHa coat and Neo-Ishgardian if females got the male version are nice as versatile tops that you can combine for a lot of different styles. I'm particularly fond of the male version of the Neo-Ishgardian set as the little cape is fairly small, alas ...

**OgruMogru** · 08-19-2022 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Rilifane

And adding to this, some tops have the nasty habit of suddenly turning into a ballgown when worn by a female character.
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sometimes they inexplicably only do this with male sets! https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearset/wicce

**Iscah** · 08-20-2022 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by OgruMogru

sometimes they inexplicably only do this with male sets! https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearset/wicce

Because its base form is a robe, not a dress, and then the female version gets turned into a cutesy lolita version of the robe.

**angienessyo** · 08-20-2022 10:37 AM

This is why I only have like, 3 glamour plates dedicated to casters. Even though RDM is my most played job.

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