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  1. #121
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    san-toki's Avatar
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    San-toki Toki-ya
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    the clause you cited references gameplay obstruction. there is no gameplay occurring and there are no game features or objectives that are made inaccessible. someone standing too close to you is a nonsensical complaint in a game where there is no player collision. you’re upset because you have a sense of ownership over the public space you are occupying (hint: you do not own it) and perceive a breach of your personal bubble (hint: no such thing exists or is enforceable within this game).

    go do some content.
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  2. #122
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    Jessica_VS's Avatar
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    Alystaziel Nightmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    Oh, I'm not offended.
    I just think it's one of the worst advice ever.
    Ignoring bullies just gives a sign that you're a target that would rather run away and not fight back.
    AKA, an easy target
    I see your perspective. I feel like in this instance, the guys (the people you're referring to as bullies) standing there are doing so for attention. I would not advocate "running away", and I am all-for fighting back against threats, self-defense, etc. in every regard and every aspect of life.

    However, guys standing there in a virtual public space (even if they are standing there for the purpose of being annoying and receiving attention) is, to me at least, undeserving of effort. Ignoring their existence and continuing on as usual would be, I feel, much easier to accomplish than trying to convince them to leave, harassing them in retaliation, sending GMs after them, and so on (all of which gives them the attention they desire anyway). Because this has happened for some time and no action has been taken, I suppose that after investigating, the GMs deem this unworthy of classifying as a form of harassment since the accused are standing there in a public place. It would be different---based on previous GM actions---if they were following people around, blocking their view, and harassing people as people try to play.

    I hope that explains my viewpoint so you don't think I am crazy.
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  3. #123
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    I mean... the fact that they're clearly going out of the way to stop others from using that spot is pretty petty, but at the same time, you cannot claim a spot as yours. I could also argue that a bunch of Lalafell have prevented me from using that spot. This has been an ongoing thing since the start of any MMO (1.0 had certain spots in Uldah certain LS would "claim" lol, same goes for about any other MMO I've played). I don't think they're necessarily in violation of anything as they have every right to stand wherever they want and they're not obstructing anything that would prevent gameplay progression.
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  4. #124
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    Parasite Arokh'aerr
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    Seriously?

    Really, get over it, youre not owning the spot with your little lalafell army, its an MMO and they have all the right to stand there for whatever reason they see fit as much as you have all the time with your lalafell community. Like Crimen above me already mentioned they could as well claim that you little guys prevented them from using that spot all the time before.

    But posts like these again show me one simple fact: FFXIV is probably the only MMO I've played (and I've played MMOs since back in the late 90s when Meridian59 and UO and stuff came out) where you can get other people banned for absolute carebear bs.. I for example could report other people and troll around claiming theyre not getting me into their party because im a dark skinned Au Ra and play the racism card and would probably even get away with it and other people in trouble/jail/whatever..
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  5. #125
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Quoting this to keep it relevant, as a lot of posters are only seeing the first post and not getting a good grasp of the situation.

    I have a keen dislike for the lalafell community and its antics generally, but no one should be siding with some insane person who is willing to multibox 15 alts to harass someone.
    Yes...they can punish that ONE account too. That's hardly a dent in your "absolutely soul crushing 1st world problem".

    Just report the guy and keep at it for the guy shouting stuff at people. The others though? Get over it.
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    Last edited by Renalt; 08-19-2022 at 03:41 AM.
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Yes...they can punish that ONE account too. That's hardly a dent in your "absolutely soul crushing 1st world problem".

    Just report the guy and keep at it for the guy shouting stuff at people. The others those? Get over it.
    This is not my problem, I am not from their server, nor am I part of their community. You are so bizarrely spun up about this; It seems you have a lot more to 'get over' emotionally than I do in respect to this issue lol.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    This is not my problem, I am not from their server, nor am I part of their community. You are so bizarrely spun up about this; It seems you have a lot more to 'get over' emotionally than I do in respect to this issue lol.
    Ah you got me. Good job!
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  8. #128
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    So an ffxiv equivalent of Habbo's Pools closed.

    Their/his behaviour is clearly harassment and should be dealt with as such.
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    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 08-19-2022 at 05:51 AM.

  9. #129
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasite View Post
    Really, get over it, youre not owning the spot with your little lalafell army, its an MMO and they have all the right to stand there for whatever reason they see fit as much as you have all the time with your lalafell community. Like Crimen above me already mentioned they could as well claim that you little guys prevented them from using that spot all the time before.
    Not quite. If their "reason" for standing there is purely to prevent certain other players from standing there, rather than making productive use of the space oneself, then that is griefing and is most certainly not okay.
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  10. #130
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    I've been over there for a few hours now on 2 different characters (one of them a Lala), and though they are standing there, they are not saying anything.
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