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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    I agree that you don't understand. That's ok—neither of us are MMO developers.

    However, YoshiP is an MMO developer, and he has said several times that the developer time and resource requirements are prohibitive. That being the case, there is at best a trade-off between replacing the glamour dresser and other things they could be doing (like content, backend improvements, etc.).

    Pretending that there isn't such a trade-off leads to vapid discussion.
    Ok fine then remove glamour restrictions for which we already know there isn't any legitimate reason. There is absolutely no excuse for them to continue to release gear with these limitations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Ok fine then remove glamour restrictions for which we already know there isn't any legitimate reason. There is absolutely no excuse for them to continue to release gear with these limitations.
    I mean to you no valid excuse may be present, but to those in power clearly have a reason. While an old interviewing Yoshi - P has stated they are in favor of clear role differences between attire. Sure it may not be overly constant I agree with that but in truth they have the final say.

    I have dabbled in client side modifications for friends regarding hats and stuff while not overly complex which does lead me to think the problem lays with how the data is stored on the server which is not simple fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  3. #53
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    I mean to you no valid excuse may be present, but to those in power clearly have a reason. While an old interviewing Yoshi - P has stated they are in favor of clear role differences between attire. Sure it may not be overly constant I agree with that but in truth they have the final say.

    I have dabbled in client side modifications for friends regarding hats and stuff while not overly complex which does lead me to think the problem lays with how the data is stored on the server which is not simple fix.
    There does seem to be a fair amount of issues relating to data storage as a holdover from the original game development. It's why we have things like "mobile data" being such a problem for what we can do and where. If data limitations were the reason that something as simple as who can glamour a piece of gear is so problematic, than they have far bigger problems than glamour with the game's overall structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Ok fine then remove glamour restrictions for which we already know there isn't any legitimate reason. There is absolutely no excuse for them to continue to release gear with these limitations.
    The legitimate reasons have been pointed out to you multiple times, in multiple threads. Quoting yourself on your stance with the matter and making that your sig also is indicative that no valid reason, or truth will penetrate that noggin of yours, so there is no point trying to force a square peg, yeah? Instead, I will say that the devs don't need a reason at all. They have the innate, and inherent right to set restrictions on gear as the see fit. Your feelings have no bearing on their decision making process whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    There does seem to be a fair amount of issues relating to data storage as a holdover from the original game development. It's why we have things like "mobile data" being such a problem for what we can do and where. If data limitations were the reason that something as simple as who can glamour a piece of gear is so problematic, than they have far bigger problems than glamour with the game's overall structure.
    I agree they have to handle their technical debt sooner rather than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  6. #56
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The legitimate reasons have been pointed out to you multiple times, in multiple threads. Quoting yourself on your stance with the matter and making that your sig also is indicative that no valid reason, or truth will penetrate that noggin of yours, so there is no point trying to force a square peg, yeah? Instead, I will say that the devs don't need a reason at all. They have the innate, and inherent right to set restrictions on gear as the see fit. Your feelings have no bearing on their decision making process whatsoever.
    Thank god you aren't the one making the decisions, or we wouldn't have a bigger dresser, viera, male viera, the upcoming female hrothgar, the upcoming deep dungeon, the reaper class, etc, etc, etc. They make changes based on community feedback, not on people who just shut up and are happy with whatever they are given.
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    Last edited by Darthgummibear; 08-17-2022 at 11:58 AM.

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    Someone needs to have some chamomille tea or something and chill tf out.

    No one's saying it shouldn't be done. Just temper your expectations for whether or not it can be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Thank god you aren't the one making the decisions, or we wouldn't have a bigger dresser, viera, male viera, the upcoming female hrothgar, the upcoming deep dungeon, the reaper class, etc, etc, etc. They make changes based on community feedback, not on people who just shut up and are happy with whatever they are given.
    That's funny. I've actually supported all the things you've just mentioned. I've only shunned additional races because they have not been able to release them as complete races like the others. Spot on judgement of me though. I am totally the type of person who would let everyone know you just spiked the punchbowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I've only shunned additional races because they have not been able to release them as complete races like the others.
    Not joining you guys throwing punches, but just to give a heads up on this...

    Please don't ask for new races.

    At least not just yet. It hasn't gone well, the devs are not being consistent, there's stuff missing and overall it's clear that the situation is not one where we can afford to ask for more.

    Perhaps in the future, when all their files have been organized and the team has more resources than they do now.

    It is okay to daydream. But don't fall into the rabbit hole...
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    I'm not asking for new races. Though I would like them to complete the ones they have released.
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