Glamours: Re-work the entire system.

[Angellos]

If 200 wasn't enough, and 400 isn't enough, 800 won't be enough:

Then clearly the system is flawed.


Completely re-work the glamour system to work more like World of Warcraft's Transmog system. Then no one has to worry about adding anything at all to a glamour dresser. Have the new system automatically add what people have in their glamour dressers into the new system.

No more clogging up dresser space, no more bloated strain on the system. It's obvious the system itself is outdated, so update it properly. The space increase is just a band-aid on a gushing wound. It's not going to hold.

EDIT: If you really want to make the playerbase happy, take away role restrictions on gear. Once a piece of gear goes into the collection, ANY class can use the gear. The only restrictions that should remain are for racial gear, weapons, and artifact gear. Everything else should turn into a level 1, Any Class glamour item. So what if your tank wants to wear a dress: I already have to stare at naked Roegadyn wearing a Chocobo head while they tank.

So what if the black mage wants to wear plate armor? A battle mage sounds AMAZING. Let them do it.

[Enkidoh]

They know glamour has issues, and no, they've already stated repeatedly countless times in the past that a WoW style system is simply out of the question due to technical problems with how the game is coded and handles gear appearence. And they simply cannot "rework" the system easily without affecting the game's operation, the only way that could happen would be for the game as a whole to be completley redesigned and coded from the ground up, a "Version 2-3.0" if you will.

As for glamour restrictions, that's a whole different subject and is mostly a design choice. Yoshi has particular ideas how he wants classes and Jobs to look like, so he has stuck to the gear restrictions ever since (and your "BLM wearing plate armour" arguement is somewhat irrelevant anyway as there is already some plate armour glamour choices available for mages like BLM, to say nothing of that originally being something the late Gary Gygax of Dungeons and Dragons fame established - mages can't wear heavy armour that would intefere with their ability to concentrate, healers can't wield bladed weaponry that would draw blood etc, and SE adopted. The very first FF game was virtually a Japanese homage to DnD after all, and FFXI outright stated those restrictions in it's manual, so FFXIV also having them is nothing new.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do support a lessening of generic gear restrictions, with 'Artifact Armour' (AF) and some other specific items remaining class locked, but it's a slippery slope, inevitably someone would then demand those items be lessened too, so... because of this 'all or nothing' attitude, I would rather SE not make any changes.

[Zarkovitch]

No way they can fix that. If it was possible they would be ready done by now. Maybe when the game is on stage of no content maybe they fix it or not. It just they cant do it due to engine weirdness. We need to accept it and ask more space for the future.

[Vahlnir]

No way they can fix that. If it was possible they would be ready done by now. Maybe when the game is on stage of no content maybe they fix it or not. It just they cant do it due to engine weirdness. We need to accept it and ask more space for the future.

I'm not buying this even for a second. WoW touted said technical issues for years before finally relenting and giving in. It took them 7 years to add something even resembling a glamour system (transmog/void storage), and 4-5 years later for the actual log (appearance tab). Just because something is hard or even some semblance of a challenge, doesn't mean it's impossible.

[Bobby66]

I'm not buying this even for a second. WoW touted said technical issues for years before finally relenting and giving in. It took them 7 years to add something even resembling a glamour system (transmog/void storage), and 4-5 years later for the actual log (appearance tab). Just because something is hard or even some semblance of a challenge, doesn't mean it's impossible.

But it does beg the question is it worth doing? Clearly to the FFXIV dev team it is not worth doing currently, maybe in the future but I am not holding my breath. I also highly doubt a large portion of the community has used even close to 400 slots, unless they straight up horde every possible drop so maybe SE's data reflects this is a niche issue and not a major one that needs such an aggressive approach. They would have to relocate resources from one aspect to another. Sure this could largely also be seen as a funding issue, SE is not putting enough back into the game that is making them profits, but sadly that is the nature to pull profits from the money maker into other projects.

[DPZ2]

I'm not buying this even for a second. WoW touted said technical issues for years before finally relenting and giving in. It took them 7 years to add something even resembling a glamour system (transmog/void storage), and 4-5 years later for the actual log (appearance tab). Just because something is hard or even some semblance of a challenge, doesn't mean it's impossible.

Wow was finally able to provide a glamour system (transmog/void storage) because they rewrote the entire back-end of the game. The expansion was called Cataclysm. I don't remember a lot of requests prior to that for the transmog system. I would have remembered something like that.

And SE didn't say it was 'impossible', only that they couldn't do it with their current setup. There's a big difference between "won't do it" and "the cost isn't worth it at this time".

[Jalei]

and your "BLM wearing plate armour" arguement is somewhat irrelevant anyway as there is already some plate armour glamour choices available for mages like BLM, to say nothing of that originally being something the late Gary Gygax of Dungeons and Dragons fame established - mages can't wear heavy armour that would intefere with their ability to concentrate, healers can't wield bladed weaponry that would draw blood etc, and SE adopted.

You're clearly blind. Tanks running dungeons half naked, heck all jobs can be seen played half naked in some 2b/bikini so this point is invalid and its time to get off the high horse. The second Yoshi added glams like that, that argument became invalid. Unlock role restrictions in the glamour dresser. Nobody cares anymore about tanks need this, mages can't wear this.

[Enkidoh]

You're clearly blind. Tanks running dungeons half naked, heck all jobs can be seen played half naked in some 2b/bikini so this point is invalid and its time to get off the high horse. The second Yoshi added glams like that, that argument became invalid. Unlock role restrictions in the glamour dresser. Nobody cares anymore about tanks need this, mages can't wear this.

Oh I assure you, my eyesight is perfectly fine. Oh, and bikinis are not armour they're classed as a costume. This arguement is about unlocking armour not costumes, and yes, there is a difference (armour has stats, costumes have zero stats and are purely for glamour and are usually unlocked class wise, that's why they're costumes).

As I said, it is a design choice, namely, this is Yoshi's choice, a choice he is clearly sticking to.

[Jalei]

Oh I assure you, my eyesight is perfectly fine. Oh, and bikinis are not armour they're classed as a costume. This arguement is about unlocking armour not costumes, and yes, there is a difference.

As I said, it is a design choice, namely, this is Yoshi's choice, a choice he is clearly sticking to.

Ok bud lol

You clearly don't have good eye sight because nobody is talking about unlocking role restrictions in combat. Only the glamour dresser lmao. And last I checked, glams don't give stats period. So again, this entire point you're making is very invalid.

[Angellos]

They know glamour has issues, and no, they've already stated repeatedly countless times in the past that a WoW style system is simply out of the question due to technical problems with how the game is coded and handles gear appearence. And they simply cannot "rework" the system easily without affecting the game's operation, the only way that could happen would be for the game as a whole to be completley redesigned and coded from the ground up, a "Version 2-3.0" if you will.

As for glamour restrictions, that's a whole different subject and is mostly a design choice. Yoshi has particular ideas how he wants classes and Jobs to look like, so he has stuck to the gear restrictions ever since (and your "BLM wearing plate armour" arguement is somewhat irrelevant anyway as there is already some plate armour glamour choices available for mages like BLM, to say nothing of that originally being something the late Gary Gygax of Dungeons and Dragons fame established - mages can't wear heavy armour that would intefere with their ability to concentrate, healers can't wield bladed weaponry that would draw blood etc, and SE adopted. The very first FF game was virtually a Japanese homage to DnD after all, and FFXI outright stated those restrictions in it's manual, so FFXIV also having them is nothing new.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do support a lessening of generic gear restrictions, with 'Artifact Armour' (AF) and some other specific items remaining class locked, but it's a slippery slope, inevitably someone would then demand those items be lessened too, so... because of this 'all or nothing' attitude, I would rather SE not make any changes.

This is 100% inaccurate. There is no limitation preventing them from changing the system entirely. It would just take work, and it would take time. It's easier to throw on a band-aid. It's not IMPOSSIBLE to change it.

Also I've played D&D since I was 13, I'm now 37. There are very simple, easy ways for a Wizard to gain proficiency in heavy armor. So if it is an homage to D&D? Then surely they know that too.

As for the 'Others will demand artifact gear being unlocked too': Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Tough luck. SOME class stuff should remain class specific and I think most of us agree on that.

But no, there is no programming limitation stopping them from changing the system. It'd just be a lot of work. Don't fall for that.

They claimed doing instance housing was impossible due to spaghetti code.

BEHOLD: Island sanctuary. Who actually falls for that excuse?