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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post

    As for advanced content, knowing who and when should use LB is something too complex to put in a simple sprout tutorial.
    I disagree. It's not even remotely complex.
    Maybe if you've never played a videogame before. Maybe..
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    Carin Eri
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    Have to admit, I rarely use it. Partly due to being told off for using it inappropriately in a Raid when I was newer and less experienced.

    The only time I tend to really use LB (particularly as a Bard) is when, for example, it has gone 'unused' and looks as if no-one else is going to utilise it, and the boss is on its proverbial last legs; Alzadaal's Legacy for example - I'll happily use LB(II) there, if no-one else has, to finish the weakened final boss off.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    For me, LB is an unnecessary mechanic. Someone uses it once in a dungeon when the last boss has 2% health. Seriously, if they would remove it, i would not miss it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    For me, LB is an unnecessary mechanic. Someone uses it once in a dungeon when the last boss has 2% health. Seriously, if they would remove it, i would not miss it.



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    LB somewhat aids in supplementing for lack of/ bad dps. If they took LB many more groups would rag on ppl for not playing so great. Not really that noticable in dungeons. But in higher end content an LB can be the difference between an enrage and a kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    A lb3 shouldn't be saved for healers if you can avoid it.
    Yes it should, melee lb3 is basically rubbish and terribly overrated. People die in Alliance raids all the time and if the boss isn't nearly dead, heal lb3 is a dps gain even on 2 dps, because it prevents weakness.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    LB somewhat aids in supplementing for lack of/ bad dps. If they took LB many more groups would rag on ppl for not playing so great. Not really that noticable in dungeons. But in higher end content an LB can be the difference between an enrage and a kill.
    Good. If your group needs melee lb3 to beat Savage, you aren't ready for Savage.

    Melee lb3 makes Savage fights 5-6 seconds shorter. That's it. It's barely over 1% of the bosses health. A single death or bringing non-meta jobs will lose you more and no one cares. If your run is messy, heal lb3 is better, so melee lb3 only really shines on low death runs where your group are all just bad at their job.

    Heal lb3 is amazing and tank lb3 is underrated and also very strong, but dps limit breaks could easily be cut.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Yes it should, melee lb3 is basically rubbish and terribly overrated. People die in Alliance raids all the time and if the boss isn't nearly dead, heal lb3 is a dps gain even on 2 dps, because it prevents weakness.



    Good. If your group needs melee lb3 to beat Savage, you aren't ready for Savage.

    Melee lb3 makes Savage fights 5-6 seconds shorter. That's it. It's barely over 1% of the bosses health. A single death or bringing non-meta jobs will lose you more and no one cares. If your run is messy, heal lb3 is better, so melee lb3 only really shines on low death runs where your group are all just bad at their job.

    Heal lb3 is amazing and tank lb3 is underrated and also very strong, but dps limit breaks could easily be cut.
    If you need Healer LB3 to beat savage, are you ready for savage? I dont really get focusing on melee lb3 here.

    As tank I would honestly love if i could decide to use LB2 instead of LB3. 40% over 15 seconds is pretty insane.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Yes it should, melee lb3 is basically rubbish and terribly overrated. People die in Alliance raids all the time and if the boss isn't nearly dead, heal lb3 is a dps gain even on 2 dps, because it prevents weakness.



    Good. If your group needs melee lb3 to beat Savage, you aren't ready for Savage.

    Melee lb3 makes Savage fights 5-6 seconds shorter. That's it. It's barely over 1% of the bosses health. A single death or bringing non-meta jobs will lose you more and no one cares. If your run is messy, heal lb3 is better, so melee lb3 only really shines on low death runs where your group are all just bad at their job.

    Heal lb3 is amazing and tank lb3 is underrated and also very strong, but dps limit breaks could easily be cut.
    saying DPS LB3 in savage means your team is all bad while calling Healer LB3 good.
    YOU ALL DIED SO YOU NEEDED THAT LB3! xD
    a good run won't even touch healer LB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Yes it should, melee lb3 is basically rubbish and terribly overrated. People die in Alliance raids all the time and if the boss isn't nearly dead, heal lb3 is a dps gain even on 2 dps, because it prevents weakness.



    Good. If your group needs melee lb3 to beat Savage, you aren't ready for Savage.

    Melee lb3 makes Savage fights 5-6 seconds shorter. That's it. It's barely over 1% of the bosses health. A single death or bringing non-meta jobs will lose you more and no one cares. If your run is messy, heal lb3 is better, so melee lb3 only really shines on low death runs where your group are all just bad at their job.

    Heal lb3 is amazing and tank lb3 is underrated and also very strong, but dps limit breaks could easily be cut.
    LOL. You lost me at "healer LB is a DPS gain".
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    LOL. You lost me at "healer LB is a DPS gain".
    It is also great for memes on Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9x5LfQYOc



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    Limit break doesn't need a rework. It's fine as is. It's already as easy as it can get. Push one button. What more do you want from them? And you have bigger problems if you feel the need to save an LB3 for the healers in a nier raid. Where is this "rough phase" you describe? A lb3 shouldn't be saved for healers if you can avoid it. Also sitting on an LB3 for an extended period of time is a waste, though he shouldn't be getting angry and yelling at people for not using it, he wasn't wrong.
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