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    Jojoya Joya
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    If YoshiP feels the need to beg players not to fill their Glamour Dressers

    then the development team needs to stop role-locking gear for glamour purposes.

    I understand the need to role-lock for equipping for combat. It makes it more likely that players joining a party will have appropriate gear for their job equipped.

    I'm fine with leaving job artifact gear and weapons locked for those who like to have something they can associated with job identity.

    It makes no sense to role-lock for glamour when I can tank while visually naked except for undergarments and weapon (unless I'm a monk, in which case even the weapon can be hidden).


    It makes no sense to role-lock role gear for glamour when the gear models are frequently shared between roles. Fending and Maiming have been the same on many occasions. Casting and Healing are usually the same. Accessories are the same across all roles frequently.

    How many of us have multiple copies of the same gear model in our glamour dressers because we want to be able to use the model for glamour across multiple roles but we have to deal with the role-lock?

    If role gear was not role-locked for glamour, or cosmetic versions that can be used on any class/job made available, we could reduce the number of items we want to store.

    *****

    Just to demonstrate the silliness of role-locking gear for glamour for reasons like "a tank should look like a tank, not a healer", I propose that everyone create an Emperor's New Clothes glamour set and use it Sept. 2nd through Sept. 5th (Labor Day weekend for those of us in the US). Use it for raids. Use it for roulettes. Use it for FATEs and hunts. Use it for Gold Saucer. Use it all day, every day that weekend.

    (edit: if nothing but the Emperor's New glamour items makes you feel uncomfortable, feel free to substitute your favorite swimsuit)

    If the devs are asking for our cooperation when it comes to inventory management, then show we'd like them to cooperate with us when it comes to space efficient glamour options.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-15-2022 at 01:51 PM.

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    Even gear like the makai gear is a perfect example. The exactly same item but oh wait you have to buy and stuff multiple copies into your glamour dresser because they're role locked.


    Anyways, just curious but where did Yoshi P say this(or imply)?

    Edit: Oh, you're talking about the part where he told people not to immediately fill their dresser right away(after the dresser goes from 400 to 800 slots)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Even gear like the makai gear is a perfect example. The exactly same item but oh wait you have to buy and stuff multiple copies into your glamour dresser because they're role locked.


    Anyways, just curious but where did Yoshi P say this(or imply)?
    Say or imply which comment?

    He's asked us not to fill up the glamour dresser each time it's been mentioned that the item limit is being doubled in 6.2, including this past Live Letter.

    Regarding the "we want a tank to look like a tank not a healer", it's been said a few times over the years. I'd have to try to drag up a link to one of the occasions (time I don't want to spend at the moment, maybe someone else has a link saved).
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    How about we also get some more space. I hate to say it, but 800 will quickly fill up when you consider multiple jobs, earrings, rings, necklaces, tops, bottoms, weapons, hands, hats, and shoes. Honestly as good as restricting jewelry was for dungeon ilevels, it really stinks that it takes up so many spaces. I have to have the exact same design for multiple jobs if I want to have that thing for all my jobs. I hate it so much. To make it workable we need like 1200 spots at least. 800 is great, but the last time they expanded, I filled up. I'm worried that every time we get a new expansion or two, that the additional space is just a bandaid. We need more. Much more.

    They also need to make a section that's just for mog station items. Or at the least let us put all this special mog station equipment in the glamour dresser. I'm tired of it taking up so much room. I want to keep it, but I'm constantly rotating things in and out of my dresser. If you buy it online, it should get a guaranteed space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Regarding the "we want a tank to look like a tank not a healer", it's been said a few times over the years. I'd have to try to drag up a link to one of the occasions (time I don't want to spend at the moment, maybe someone else has a link saved).

    I got ya! From 2019 a Kotaku Interview


    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki Yoshida
    First, to answer about removing the job restrictions, unfortunately, we don’t intend to remove them. The reason is simple. For players who have played other Final Fantasy titles, they’ll easily recognize these gear designs as a way to identify a particular job...You wouldn’t want to see someone carrying an axe casting black magic. You’d wonder: What the hell kind of game is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Say or imply which comment?

    He's asked us not to fill up the glamour dresser each time it's been mentioned that the item limit is being doubled in 6.2, including this past Live Letter.

    Regarding the "we want a tank to look like a tank not a healer", it's been said a few times over the years. I'd have to try to drag up a link to one of the occasions (time I don't want to spend at the moment, maybe someone else has a link saved).
    No, no it's fine. My brain just was on snooze when he said it this time I guess. I'm probably just used to hearing it at this point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Even gear like the makai gear is a perfect example. The exactly same item but oh wait you have to buy and stuff multiple copies into your glamour dresser because they're role locked.
    If you get the title, you can get them at Calamity Salvager or your Housing NPC, so there's no reason to put it on Dresser

    In regards on YoshiP statement, it can't be helped if the unique glamour like Warg and Paglth'an gear locked behind duty that nobody runs anymore except on roulette, with those RNG as well...
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    What Yoshi actually said was a joke about how people would complain about needing more slots once the 400 are added.

    As far as the Makai gear goes, it can just be deleted after you get the title. It's available for reclaim on the Calamity Salvager. There's quite a bit that's available there, including every glamour that's rewarded from quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    I got ya! From 2019 a Kotaku Interview
    This doesn't really make any sense to me. Not only does it jump to a rather extreme example (no one I think will care if we can't make our staves into axes.) But in the context of those other Final Fantasy titles, the job system in those games would let us give our Black Mages axes, or let our Warriors cast spells, or let our White Mages leap into the air. ARR was among those back when we had cross-class skills, albeit far more limited. I highly doubt me being able to use maiming, casting, or scouting glamours on Paladin is going to ruffle any feathers.
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    the extra 400 slots will be filled up within 20 minutes of the server coming up.

    The are over 450 Mogstation items alone that i cant fit in my dresser.

    What should i do? Use my 9 retainers inventories and fill them with Glam? Sorry, already doing that.

    We need SPACE FOR EVERYTHING or just revamp the system to something like World of Warcraft where you do not need to keep the items once they are registered.

    Glam system is a joke.
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