Can you please add a daily queue for Hidden Gorge/Rival Wings?

[BabaM]

Yeah, you CAN carry Frontlines. I won like 18 games 2 days ago in Onsal Hakair because I was carrying so well. But statistically, you're still playing a game with 3 teams and have a 2/3 chance of losing. Sometimes you just get the raw end of the deal in terms of teammate/spawn luck, ect and you're more likely to get a bad deal than not. At least with Rival Wings you can't blame a third spoiler team, its just two sides. An Aeon of Strife Style Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides even.

And the main thing is, if you want the mode to actually be active and have matches pop, you're gonna have to put it on a roulette. When Frontlines offer double the rewards to Rival Wings, no one is going to queue for Rival Wings. The mode will be dead within a few days of 6.2 launch.

[NyneSwordz]

I believe they actually said they would do this some years ago. Back then some people suggested they roll rival wings into the Frontline daily. Not sure when this will happen.

[Mistress_Irika]

Nah, no need, all the other content in the game allows you to bypass the mediocrity. Just delete PVP.

I'm at that point where I'm bringing potions with me to old 4 man content because of my lack of trust for today's tanks and healers. I'll rather pvp than deal with that on a daily basis.

[Ransu]

Ya I don't really understand why they are not part of the frontline roulette.

[GordonGeeko]

It proves that if you are a god-tier Frontlines player that doesn't need a premade, you will be good enough to win more than 3 games out of 10...

You'll be able to win.... 4 games out of 10 !!!!

[Geryth]

You'll be able to win.... 4 games out of 10 !!!!

Exactly. Across that 1,000 games I'm up 100 wins over losses than I would be being an average player playing the game of chance. That shaves weeks off of mount and title grinds. It's more malmstone rewards. It's more experience for my alt jobs (nearly all my XP in this game has been earned via PvP, where 2nd place matters a lot too). That one extra game every 10 matters a whole fucking lot when you want a title requiring 300 wins.

[GordonGeeko]

Someone was pointing out that a roulette would bring in more XP farmers which would hurt games.

My point was that it doesn't matter because the Rival Wings games are already trash.

I am well-aware that it is possible to carry games, otherwise something like this wouldn't happen in Rival Wings:



(not mine, best I got was like 20 in a row).

This is not a : I want them to delete PVP because I am unable to win. This is a : I want them to delete PVP because not enough people care about it enough to make it competitive and fun. The only way they can bring enough people for large scale PVP modes is by giving PVE rewards regardless if you win or lose. Of course some people enjoy it and I am fully aware that I want those modes gone for my own selfish reasons (don't want to grind those 1000 win achievements with how lame the games are).

If those modes truly were enjoyed by many people, they would be active without PVE incentives and people would play them for fun, but they don't.

So, sure, if you're keeping them, bring in a Rival Wings roulette. It is the only way to make that mode pop without organizing community events or putting the duty as part of a moogle tomestones thing.

[Geryth]

This is not a : I want them to delete PVP because I am unable to win. This is a : I want them to delete PVP because not enough people care about it enough to make it competitive and fun.

Fair enough, I did indeed misunderstand your point. Apologies for misrepresenting your message with my own assumptions.

[BabaM]

Oh hey, would you look at that. Patch day and there is a 30+ (infinite) minute queue for Rival Wings. I called it. No one is queuing because its not a daily roulette. You can't even queue for it at the same time as other PVP modes, you have to queue for it exclusively. That basically means that no one will ever queue for it over Frontlines or CC unless the tomestone event is on. I don't understand why the devs keep putting in so much work into Rival Wings only to ensure that it is a dead game mode due to their own refusal to give it a unique queue. Its not dead because no one wants to play it, its dead purely because of SE's actions.

[Arzalis]

Oh hey, would you look at that. Patch day and there is a 30+ (infinite) minute queue for Rival Wings. I called it. No one is queuing because its not a daily roulette. You can't even queue for it at the same time as other PVP modes, you have to queue for it exclusively. That basically means that no one will ever queue for it over Frontlines or CC unless the tomestone event is on. I don't understand why the devs keep putting in so much work into Rival Wings only to ensure that it is a dead game mode due to their own refusal to give it a unique queue. Its not dead because no one wants to play it, its dead purely because of SE's actions.

Probably the same reason they added a competitive team-based game mode and then don't care to add the ability to actually queue with a team. Or the same reason there's been a game breaking bug that affects Onsal Hakair for like 4 months now with no fix in sight.

They either don't know what they are doing in regards to PvP or just don't care to fully focus on it and make it actually good.

It's a shame because it has a ton of potential.