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  1. #101
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    Axious's Avatar
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    Axious Atheorion
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Except you didn't even survive the TB. Vengeance? Only had the counterattack and no mitigation. Holmgang? Rooted you and the enemy but didn't provide the invuln. Inner Beast? Only the selfheal and 0 mitigation. Hard to outheal a tank buster when it just flattens you immediately.
    It would work even less now. I guess I have to say it for the 20th time but most tank busters in the current tier put a DoT on you and the strength of that DoT depends on how much you mitigated the initial hit, which means anything that isn't flat damage mitigation just makes you take more damage, increasing your maximum HP does literally nothing.
    Still doesn’t discount the fun of it.
    Sure T1 T5 and titan were rough but it wasn’t impossible. Requiring a different approach to the fight than Pld would have. Only time a TB would out right KO was a crt and server ticks for autos.

    As for now? Life is made easier for us lol.
    Still would be interesting to see 2.0 implemented.
    300% heal on fell cleave / inner beast. Bloodbath! Mercy Stroke. Old berserk! Granted the pacification was a pain.

    Either way. I enjoyed my time for 2.0 warrior!
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  2. #102
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    You had to be a masochist to bring 2.0 War in turn 5, it couldn't even survive Death Sentence alone.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  3. #103
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    Axious's Avatar
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    Axious Atheorion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    You had to be a masochist to bring 2.0 War in turn 5, it couldn't even survive Death Sentence alone.
    Guilty lol. It was a 50/50 if you would survive the initial hit on death sentence. The worse part was the healing debuff afterwards.
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  4. #104
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    50/50 is being extremely generous. Your odds of surviving the initial hit were practically non-existent (but not 0) on your own, and that's to say nothing of the amount of sheer panic generated in healers the second a WAR took a hard hit from anything. The extra HP and tiny bit of healing WAR used to have in no way offset having to take just about everything straight to the face.

    My static back then wanted to string me up by my ears the one time I even so much as indicated curiosity at the prospect of trying WAR against Twintania.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-13-2022 at 03:23 AM.

  5. #105
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    50/50 is being extremely generous. Your odds of surviving the initial hit were practically non-existent (but not 0) on your own, and that's to say nothing of the amount of sheer panic generated in healers the second a WAR took a hard hit from anything. The extra HP and tiny bit of healing WAR used to have in no way offset having to take just about everything straight to the face.

    My static back then wanted to string me up by my ears the one time I even so much as indicated curiosity at the prospect of trying WAR against Twintania.
    It’s funny and also sad how bad 2.0 war was in comparison too pld. Like the job did nothing good, dmg was meh and tank potential was also pure garbage. Like they actually had too rewamp everything about the job to make him somewhat decent. Like no other job got this much ability changes and remakes then war.
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  6. #106
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Axious View Post
    Still doesn’t discount the fun of it.
    Sure T1 T5 and titan were rough but it wasn’t impossible. Requiring a different approach to the fight than Pld would have. Only time a TB would out right KO was a crt and server ticks for autos.

    As for now? Life is made easier for us lol.
    Still would be interesting to see 2.0 implemented.
    300% heal on fell cleave / inner beast. Bloodbath! Mercy Stroke. Old berserk! Granted the pacification was a pain.

    Either way. I enjoyed my time for 2.0 warrior!
    Same though I would prefer 3.0-4.1 WAR. IR reducing your gauge meters would actually work better in 6.0 where you only spend it on FC's and not have to deal with upheaval or onslaught messing up your meter. Imagine using two Infuriates and getting to spam four IC/CC back to back. I would much prefer that than the 100% crits dh that WAR has now. At least other jobs are getting it to so they get to feel the pain of dealing rng based dmg.
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  7. #107
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    Aya Lovelace
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    Jenova
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
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  8. #108
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
    I've been seeing a lot of PLDs since their buff.
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  9. #109
    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
    Damage is all that matters when mitigation isn't required to clear.
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  10. #110
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Damage is all that matters when mitigation isn't required to clear.
    Warrior is also just flat out not good at mitigating stuff this tier. Thrill of Battle is terrible on the DoT busters and Bloodwhetting loses a lot of value as well when the incoming damage and it's duration far exceeds your healing.
    I'd take upfront mitigation over some max HP increase any day.
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