Timeline of Endwalker Role Quests (Spoilers)

[AeternusLupus]

Spoilers up to end of 6.0 MSQ + Endwalker Role Quests

I was wondering about the point in time in which the Endwalker Role Quests are meant to take place. Whilst with almost all other quests in the game, including Raid unlock and other side quests, steps are taken to make clear these can take place canonically at any point in the timeline, it seems that the Endwalker Role Quests only seem to fit canonically before the final MSQ of patch 6.0. Or is it still possible for people to fall to Meteion's Song of Despair even after the end of this quest? Am I missing something?

[Cilia]

It's mentioned in passing that some Terminus beasts might still be around after defeating Meteion. The Role Quests can canonically take place any time after they become available thanks to that.

[AeternusLupus]

It's mentioned in passing that some Terminus beasts might still be around after defeating Meteion. The Role Quests can canonically take place any time after they become available thanks to that.

This makes sense, but as part of some of the role quests people still actively transform during the quest itself. It makes sense for there to still be blasphemies around as there's no way to un-blasphemise (?) them, but I'm a bit confused how people can still transform given Meteion is now gone.

[Cilia]

This makes sense, but as part of some of the role quests people still actively transform during the quest itself. It makes sense for there to still be blasphemies around as there's no way to un-blasphemise (?) them, but I'm a bit confused how people can still transform given Meteion is now gone.

Blasphemies (the big daddies) are capable of spreading negative dynamis around and turning people into beasts. Meteion's song won't make any more of those, but until the big ones are all put down they're still an issue.(... I think. I haven't done all the role quests so I don't know if actual Blasphemies manifest during one.)

[Kazemon15]

Actually, there is a reason and explanation given in the 6.1 role quest after you complete the other prerequisite role quests.

[AeternusLupus]

Good to know a reason is given, though Cilia's explanation also makes a lot of sense. Thanks all!

[Iscah]

Whilst with almost all other quests in the game, including Raid unlock and other side quests, steps are taken to make clear these can take place canonically at any point in the timeline,

I disagree with that. There are plenty of previous sidequests clearly linked to a specific point in MSQ, especially raid unlocks if major characters are involved (Crystal Tower, Binding Coil, Alexander, Warring Triad, Eden.)

Eden in particular requires you to keep your questing very up-to-date for the timeline to make sense, with the first two tiers needing to be done during 5.1-5.2 and then the bridging "we're returning to our home world soon" conversation that only unlocks at the beginning of the 5.3 story chapter.

[EdwinLi]

Well this is not the end of Blasphemies anyways. Eorzea is having little issues now due to Meteion being defeated and they know how to minimize people from turning, the locations beyond Eorzea and regions we can adventure to now may have a more serious issue with Blasphemies during the aftermath of the final days. Not to mention they may have suffered far worse than the current locations we can explore now due to lacking a group who can spread information about how to prevent people from turning into Blasphemies.

We can expect to see plenty of fallout in the newer regions in Season 2 due lacking certain things the current regions have to warn them about Blasphemies and what triggers people's transformation.

Also, potentially fight new Blasphemies that were not dealt with in those regions.

Not to mention, as 6.1 Role Quest shows, people are still at risks to transform into Blasphemies despite the requirements are much higher now. This may lead to certain Season 2 regions that are maybe Bloodborne like due to their inability to properly contain Blasphemies during the final days and after the final days.

[Cleretic]

Not to mention, as 6.1 Role Quest shows, people are still at risks to transform into Blasphemies despite the requirements are much higher now. This may lead to certain Season 2 regions that are maybe Bloodborne like due to their inability to properly contain Blasphemies during the final days and after the final days.

To confirm, though, there's a difference between 'Blasphemies' and 'Terminus beasts'. The Blasphemy of the originator that can then turn others; the Terminus Beasts are the lowlier guys that turn after that. The rules are a little different in areas where the sky actually burns, but the Blasphemy's still the first person to turn.

My reading was that the Blasphemy in 6.1 was one that turned up during the events of the story, but we only found the thing later.

[Iscah]

To confirm, though, there's a difference between 'Blasphemies' and 'Terminus beasts'. The Blasphemy of the originator that can then turn others; the Terminus Beasts are the lowlier guys that turn after that. The rules are a little different in areas where the sky actually burns, but the Blasphemy's still the first person to turn.

Where is that said?

My understanding is that "blasphemies" is term being used for all the monsters in this current event, while "terminus" only comes from the Amaurot dungeon monster names and may not even be a term ever spoken by the characters.