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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Ok. You presume to speak for others about what you think they should want from the game and get upset that someone else speaks for you. Alright.



    But, again, the person you had responded to told you why she liked Protect: for the small group bonding moment at the start. Interpreting other peoples' comments as a jumping-off point to find common ground has to start with actually listening to other people. You can't just assume everyone likes what you like and go from there. You especially can't do it when they've already directly counter-indicated it.

    Speaking for myself, I like long-duration buffs because 1) I like buffs for flavor, 2) in other games I've played they could be shared with strangers to be friendly, and 3) they shift some of the prepwork and reduce the overall cognitive load during combat. I have repeatedly said as much.

    And yet somehow in interpreting what "our community" wants for healers, you arrive at "I don't believe old Protect had really anything to do with old healer engagement. It's more the idea of having more forms of mitigation and utility rather than the button that, in a perfect world, you press once and never again.", a summation which completely reverses and obliterates my stated position and substitutes your own desires in place of it.

    If I seem to be irritated with you, it's because I'm irritated with you.



    You feel it's important for you to speak for everyone so that on the off-chance a developer listens to the forum, they'll listen to you and not, say, someone who enjoys buffs because they offer a little bit of group bonding or because they reduce combat APM slightly.
    Look, at the end of the day, I did not tell anyone how they're supposed to feel or how they feel. I didn't tell the person whom I was originally commenting on that she isn't allowed to liked Protect. All I said was, when people wax poetic about old mechanics like protect, I do not genuinely believe those tools are what actually let to their positive experience whether they were aware of that or not. That is not me putting words in other peoples' mouths. That is me giving my opinion on what I believe is going on in those conversations. It's no different than me saying something like I don't believe most people who eat at McDonalds are doing it because they enjoy the food. I think they do it because it's fast, convenient, and cheap. I cannot speak for literally every McDonalds consumer, I'm just giving my opinion on why I think people choose McDonalds over other options.

    i.e. I don't think when most people wax poetic about protect, that it was actually protect that they enjoyed. I think it was everything else about healer gameplay they enjoyed and protect just happened to be there too.

    I will say, it doesn't seem like anyone's agreeing with your stance on the matter, so take that with a grain of salt, I suppose.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 09-06-2022 at 11:56 AM.