Live Letter Thoughts

[aveyond-dreams]

For people who watched the island livestream: was there anything about weather and possible biomes? I know the map is pretty solidly green, but I can dream.

Unfortunately this island is located somewhere tropical. It will have mostly sunny and rainy weather. The lack of biome choice is rather disappointing. I would've preferred a smaller and more customizable island than one that is locked to the tropical biome.

[Kazhar]

They had the intent to destroy a part of their own people for the sake of summoning Zodiark. They did so.

After they did that, they had the intent to destroy a part of their own people to repair the damage to Etheirys. They did so.

This is a disingenuous way to phrase it. It's been made very clear that the Ancients sacrificed themselves to summon Zodiark and that they did so willingly, the story never supports that they were forced nor brainwashed into it. Whether the Convocation could be still considered responsible for their sacrifice is an interesting question, but it's certainly not as clear cut as the way you say it.
Only the third sacrifice was clearly framed as killing other life forms without their consent, and this is not a coincidence that this is the one which sparked heavy debates among the Ancients society and forced Elidibus to come back as an Emissary.

So why do people want to venerate the group that succeeded in 2 acts of genocide and were about to commit multiple genocides while demonizing the individual that stopped that massive wave of genocide

I believe people (those of us who were disgusted by Venat's act) would have a much different reaction to the Sundering if it was established that Ancients agreed to it. All of this was done without their consent and a decision taken by (possibly, depending on how much she told her followers, and we know she wasn't really found of sharing) a single individual. The post EW live letter supports this interpretation.
So yes, this is not comparable.

And even if we accepted your notion that the willing sacrifice of the Ancients was an act of evil, you can't absolve Venat of responsability for it. After all, her entire 12k years plan needed Zodiark to work in the first place.

[LisSquid]

Unfortunately this island is located somewhere tropical. It will have mostly sunny and rainy weather. The lack of biome choice is rather disappointing. I would've preferred a smaller and more customizable island than one that is locked to the tropical biome.

That is a shame. With all this ungodly heat happening I find myself wanting to afk in Coerthia..

Maybe some update will let us terraform - it is evergreen (huehuehuehue) content, after all. Foggy redwood forest dreams never die.

[Kaurhz]

And she used her own free will by not telling people what was going on, paving the way for the destruction of all but a handful of ancients. Nothing about this strikes me as a hero, and to have to sit through hearing about how wonderful she was in 6.2 isn't going to make for a palatable experience for those of us who do not think highly of her actions.

It was her that started this. Nor are we asking for the Ascians to be "absolved" we want the game to acknowledge beyond a passing statement that what she did was wrong, and to stop propping her up as a benevolent goddess when she wasn't one.

Because it is all relativism, what you are effectively asking for, or at the very least advocating for with this sentiment is a very long history of indoctrination to effectively be annulled in a very short period of time. The world is vast so that isn't happening. They have already made it pretty clear through the story that it is no longer as simple as black and white and leaves it up to your own perception to determine who was right, and who was wrong. - The game doesn't need to tell you that.

We weren't exactly heading into Endwalker as "OOOO the big bad Zodiark" - This was practically tossed out the window courtesy of the lecture as provided by Emet-Selch in Rak'tika. The only basis for us going after him and subsequently viewing him as bad was just due to external factors (e.g., Zenos and Fandaniel wanting to suckle his power)

Edit: Just as I have said enablement from a third party factor is not an absolvent, otherwise ultimately the stick-pointing game would be, and should be put in the direction of Hermes.

[VelKallor]

Nor am I asking for the Ascians to be "absolved" I want the game to acknowledge beyond a passing statement that what she did was wrong, and to stop propping her up as a benevolent goddess when she wasn't one.

Well , the writers know what they are doing, and as I enjoyed the storyline as is, I disagree with your interpretation.

Unfortunately this island is located somewhere tropical. It will have mostly sunny and rainy weather. The lack of biome choice is rather disappointing. I would've preferred a smaller and more customizable island than one that is locked to the tropical biome.

What fun is there in a snowed in, frozen wasteland where your crops wither and die?

Really?

[SannaR]

Sadly Hermes somehow get absolved of all of it due to the whole Venat didn't tell anyone part of all of this. Even though we don't have enough information about said choice. Regardless of not having said information about the choice they always paint it and insist that Venat didn't have doubts or didn't try to go with other plans or ideas.

And until such time that we gain more information there's no way to tell how married to the sundering plan Venat was. Course I'm surprised they haven't gone hard down the path of well if they knew they could have averted not only the final days but came up with a plan to defeat the Metiea. Screw and ignore the fact the Hermes would be a wild card that would be fully capable of trying to sabotage an informed (one reinformed) convocation.

Also welcome to the Lore section kupo. Gee I wonder why some voices in that section have been absent or won't touch it with a ten foot pole. Just watch out the for the philosophical rehashing of the rehashing of this "debate".

Back to what the thread is about. Who thinks the PuPu or the Loloprits are responsible for the multitude of stuck in the ground Hildibrands?

[Hanayumi]

Pretty sure Devs mentioned multiple islands for future updates as this should be regularly updated from 6.2 forward, so various biomes could be a thing and likely well just brings materials on over.

[BaconBits]

Sadly Hermes somehow get absolved of all of it due to the whole Venat didn't tell anyone part of all of this. Even though we don't have enough information about said choice. Regardless of not having said information about the choice they always paint it and insist that Venat didn't have doubts or didn't try to go with other plans or ideas.

And until such time that we gain more information there's no way to tell how married to the sundering plan Venat was. Course I'm surprised they haven't gone hard down the path of well if they knew they could have averted not only the final days but came up with a plan to defeat the Metiea. Screw and ignore the fact the Hermes would be a wild card that would be fully capable of trying to sabotage an informed (one reinformed) convocation.

Also welcome to the Lore section kupo. Gee I wonder why some voices in that section have been absent if won't touch it with a ten foot pole. Just watch out the for the philosophical rehashing of the rehashing of this "debate".

Back to what the thread is about. Who thinks the PuPu or the Loloprits are responsible for the multitude of stuck in the ground Hildibrands?

Nah, Hermes can catch this smoke too. Him and his bird children...

Also I'm going for the wildcard pick- We suplexed all the Hildibrands.

[SannaR]

What fun is there in a snowed in, frozen wasteland where your crops wither and die?

Really?

Giant greenhouse that's heated by cerulean heaters. Course I wonder if it snowing would count as having them be watered as they did say that when it rains it would count as that. Now when will that apply to regular gardening Yoshida? I wouldn't have to touch some friends crops some days cause of all the rain it'd be doing where their houses are.

[SannaR]

Us, Godbert, a joint effort or was it his mother? Still wouldn't explain how so many Hildibrand Heliodor Maximilion Manderville became many.