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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Actually it is.

    None of them have "retired", and that "disbanding" was for the general public, "going back to the shadows for now" as their main job is done. The problems that do occur can be handled by the Grand Company of Eorzea, which is why it was created in the first place.

    Which is what Alphinaud intended, as he and the others didnt want the Grand Companies leaning on them all the time..they have to learn to handle their own issues, and can call on the Scions when they are really needed. Nowhere in any MSQ or by any comments from YoshiP has he said they are "retiring characters", in effect they are off doing their own thing on standby until really needed.

    None of the Scions are being "retired from the main party".
    So until Yoshi-P personally spoonfeed it to you, you're not allowed to draw your own conclusions from the text? You people sure have an incredibly warped view of "objectivity".
    Maybe the Scions will come back full force next patch, maybe not. But this isn't an incorrect read of the story as most of the previous main cast seems disconnected from the current arc, and depending on the direction it goes, we could be headed towards a Heavensward-like expansion mostly focused on a reduced cast, which would be a breath of fresh air in my opinion. Or they will go the Shadowbringers/Endwalker route and have them with us all the time always, who knows?
    You certainly don't so stop with the dumb outrage over other people's views.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 08-13-2022 at 11:28 PM. Reason: clearer wording

  2. #152
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    who knows?
    My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

    Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at. To restate:

    Its a huge leap to assume anything based on three seconds of a trailer.

    Twitter as a source.

    LMAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

    Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at.

    Twitter as a source.

    LMAO.
    So where's your source that people want to keep the Scions around? Let's not quote paid journalists again!
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  4. #154
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    I dont have one, i dont know. No one does. Never said I had a source..I said I didnt know.

    Until we get the new MSQ done, none of us has a clue what is going to happen . But Im not the one making claims like this

    Thankfully with the retirement of most of them from the main party,
    along with a broad assumption that this "reaper character" and Varshahn will become regular members...after seeing a three second trailer.

    We wont know till after 6.2.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

    Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at.

    Twitter as a source.

    LMAO.
    But you too are doing it with your inexact wording. You said "None of the Scions are being retired from the main party", but wouldn't the truly objective way to phrase it be "We currently have no official confirmation that the Scions are being retired from the main party"?

    There's no end to that rabbit hole you see.
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  6. #156
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    "We currently have no official confirmation that the Scions are being retired from the main party"?
    Thats correct. And until we have official confirmation...as I keep saying, we dont know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I dont have one, i dont know. No one does. Never said I had a source..I said I didnt know.
    Then why drag him down for his source lol when you're not even going to attempt to find your own sources that plenty of people have enjoyed the story? Twitter is a good place to start as any since you're looking at people's opinions. What, do you think Yoshi is going to poll and release results that shows that the player base didn't like EW popular to contrary belief?

    I don't even dislike EW at all, I actually rather thought it had some strong moments in the story. But let's not pretend that it doesn't have it's problems.

    Btw, you are also painting wide strokes of what's going to happen (no members will be retired, plenty of people did like it) and then just deflecting any opposing opinion with "Well, we technically don't know!" It's called speculation, dear.
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    Such shitshow. Anyway.

    for how much I'd love to get rid of scions more than anything else, I don't think that's happening.
    The current party only has 2 scions, yes, because they're the ones we're going into the void with. But it's not like we're moving to the void for life, you know, it's just a trip. And meanwhile, we have Graha in the alliance raids series.
    The rest are likely to join us when we get back, but honestly we have absolutely no clue if that's the case or of what will happen then, we're just starting our trip to the void and that's all we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So if all you got out of 6.1 was 3-4 hours of content it sounds like you did the MSQ and that's it (other than the PvP) since it takes 3-4 hours to get through the 6.1 MSQ unless you're cutscene/dialog skipping.

    So you skipped:
    Part 1 of the Alliance raid
    Endsinger's Aria
    Ultimate
    Ultima's Bane Unreal
    Tataru's Grand Endeavor
    Omega: Beyond the RIFT
    Somehow Further Hildebrand Adventures
    Arkasodara Tribal Quests and raising your rank to Bloodsworn
    Ameliance Custom Deliveries and increasing your reputation for the title and glamour
    Doing the Excite-a-tron for the new rewards that were added
    crafting the new gear and housing items

    Can't do all of that in 3-4 hours and most of it is PvE content (there's more to player versus environment than just killing a monster). Maybe you should check out all the things you missed.

    It's your choice to tunnel vision on a tiny segment of what the game offers but it completely false to state that the game does not offer more when it does but you're choosing not to do it.
    "You think the game is too easy and boring? Just do the ultimates if you are bored!"
    Who do you think you are? Yoshida? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I'm sure people had speculated that you might be a no-life, but thanks for removing any doubt.
    The GCBTW in action.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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