Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
A lot of this conversation comes about only because the writer decided this is the way things should happen and didn't pour over possible consequences like players are.

What was made clear was that the Amaurotines had a belief that death renewed life so self-sacrifice was revered. No mention was made of the other societies with their own autonomous governments we know had existed on Etheirys thanks to the 5.0 side quest. Can we be certain that they also sacrificed themselves willingly, or is that just something being told to us by a member of the Amaurotine ruling class who held the belief and had a difficult time giving due consideration to others who didn't share that belief? You know, the same guy that had told us that he decided we weren't truly alive so it wouldn't be murder to kill us. Was all that something overlooked by the writer in creating the story?
I'm fine with speculation, but this is entirely baseless. It comes from more than one source (not only Emet-Selch, but also Hythlodaeus, the side stories and possibly more) at no point any character disputed the claim. Also, we have no reason to believe Hydaelyn's summoning worked differently and it was told than their summoners too willingly sacrificed themselves too. This isn't even a case of "a writer forgot", it simply didn't happen in the story they told.

Again, it's a story. What happens in the story is all fiction created for the writer's purpose. You guys are allowing yourselves to get too worked up over it. There's a big difference between saying "Venat is evil" and saying "I don't think the writer did a good job of convincing me that I should view Venat favorably".
Well, discussing the merits of the story in a discussion forum is the entire point, so I'm not too sure where you're going with it. Should I just give up trying to make sense of it because "it's so poorly written it's better to not think about it too much"? There are plenty of really great stories I've seen and read I'm able to analyze and discuss for literal years, and sometimes appreciate them even more for it. If Endwalker gets demolished by the smallest of scrutiny, perhaps it just wasn't a good story in the first place.