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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Fordola is a Major part of the EW Healer Role Quest.
    IMO, its pretty great. But I might be bias as a Healer main and a Fordola Fan.
    Awesome! Cheers for the info. Fordola is one of my fav NPCs so looking foward to that. Healer is a role I have only recently returned to, so I am cheating a little in useing my Summoner-leved SCH to do those quests haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I have not played those quests yet but this is going to give me an extra shove. Is Fordola in them too? I was hoping to see more from both of them in EW.
    Yes, Fordola features prominently in the healer role quests and Arenvald is the backbone of them. He has always been strong of character and I think he's even moreso now in a wheelchair, which you'll see in that questline. He is certainly not idle or letting anything hold him back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Personally, I don't think they "mishandled" his arc at all - I've felt it's resonated well with me. Things happen that fundamentally change people. They've happened to the scions, too. Y'shtola lost her regular eyesight and now needs to use aether to "see." Thancred lost his ability to use magic in his trip through the lifestream. Yda/Lyse came to terms with who she is and now fights for Ala Mhigo instead of the scions. The dev team "maims" the scions, too, and turns some of them into side material. An expansion doesn't have to kill a major character to be good; then you devolve into killing someone off purely for the sake of killing someone off, and all that will do at this point in a long-running series like FFXIV is alienate fans.

    If you haven't done so yet, I'd also encourage doing the Healer role quests in EW. Arenvald plays a major role there and is given significant development.
    I think it's kinda odd that you'd bring up Y'shtola of all people, since she's a prime example of how nothing bad ever truly happens to the Scion main cast. Lost her eyesight, you kidding?! That may as well be flavor text for all it's mattered, she can aim her Black Mage spells with the utmost alacrity and they've utterly forgotten the implications she was using her life-force to see with aether. For all the game likes to play up how supremely reckless Y'shtola is, quite literally nothing ever comes of her candor.

    It's part and parcel of the point I'm attempting to make, that the difference is the Scions can still adventure and fight whereas Arenvald is relegated to being a glorified secretary. Unless the Ironworks gets off their asses and makes him some Magitek legs a la Professor Xavier, I can't see any reason for this development when Arenvald could easily have been one of our new Trust members in the upcoming Season 2 storyline. But nay, what are the odds when we already have someone who lost a limb and it didn't get replaced (looking at YOU, Raubahn!)?
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    Arenvald is a lot like Keyoke ( Raymond E Feist and janny Wurts Servant of the Empire ), when her adviser is seriously injured and cannot fight, she makes him her Adviser for War, in short she makes him a General, his fighting days are over but what he KNOWS is invaluable.

    Arenvald is the same, he may be confined to a wheelchair, doesnt mean he cant advise, teach...as a very famous soldier once said, all battles are first fought in the mind, later on the battlefield.

    " As Tiberius soldiers remember, his drills are bloodless battles...his battles are bloody drills"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Was this second island thing on a slide in a older liveletter or should something he said? Because I really wonder why they would already give us a new one soon (this expansion) when we just get a huge one right now. Of course I take it but maybe they could simply increase the one island and give us more there instead of two different ones?

    But who knows maybe that will still change in development until then.
    From LiveLetter LXVIII
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5861033

    6th image in this post
    to be fair it specifically says
    "Additional area for Island Sanctuary"

    the 2nd island thing seems to be community imagination running away with that sparse piece of info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    From LiveLetter LXVIII
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5861033

    6th image in this post
    to be fair it specifically says
    "Additional area for Island Sanctuary"

    the 2nd island thing seems to be community imagination running away with that sparse piece of info
    Thank you for the link. So that could also just mean that the island grows a bit (or get new building and stuff added) which imo makes more sense, because the island we will get is already huge.
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    So that could also just mean that the island grows a bit (or get new building and stuff added) which imo makes more sense, because the island we will get is already huge.
    Yup.

    Will be added as patches come along. Looking forward to it hugely..and I think to celebrate, Ill bring home some hamburgers.

    No one tell Aveyond, okay? I dont think his blood pressure will be able to handle it
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Ill bring home some hamburgers.
    will it have pineapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    By that definition, so do the actions of the Convocation of FourteenThirteen.
    that was and should never have been in doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So why do people want to venerate the group that succeeded in 2 acts of genocide
    Two? do the rejoinings not count? How many reflections have they destroyed? Not to mention the 13th which was a failed experiment for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    She also did not create "copies" she reduced everything to this:


    You're talking about the impressions of a character who saw our characters and civilizations in that way as well. He told us point blank that he doesn't consider us truly alive and therefore it's not murder if he kills us.

    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    will it have pineapple?



    that was and should never have been in doubt.



    Two? do the rejoinings not count? How many reflections have they destroyed? Not to mention the 13th which was a failed experiment for them.
    You're correct, thank you. I forget about the 7 successful rejoinings (or 8 if you count the now alternate timeline of Biggs the 3rd, with that timeline possibly having even more rejoinings to come depending on just how powerful Midgardsormr truly is).

    Still, people have been taking a fictional story WAAAAYYYYY too seriously. Please step back a few minutes and root yourselves in reality. None of those characters ever existed. The choices they made about what to do and the consequences of those actions never happened. Nothing says you need to like the story told or any specific characters but getting yourselves worked up so much over it is not healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Was this second island thing on a slide in a older liveletter or should something he said? Because I really wonder why they would already give us a new one soon (this expansion) when we just get a huge one right now. Of course I take it but maybe they could simply increase the one island and give us more there instead of two different ones?

    But who knows maybe that will still change in development until then.
    I'm not sure where the second Island is coming from. I don't remember reading anything about a second one. Even from unofficial translations. A second one so soon after being given this one with only the devs at this time know how long the average person should take to "finish it" feels as a bit much. Especially if it would be more of the same. Just not be a tropical Island. Not saying if there is a second Island that it would be more of the same, but without more information I'm not sure how much different they could make other Islands be.

    Edit: Ahh should have read further down the thread.
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