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    Player Stasya's Avatar
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Looks like someone cannot make a distinction between genuine white knighting and someone expressing a different viewpoint, but that's okay, keep saying it and you may someday know what it actually means instead of using it inappropriately for a difference in viewpoint.
    Looks like someone tries to defend trolls in general forum but that's ok someone has to play with kids that dont play game but keep subscription on to chitchat for funsies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Thanks. Keep up the calling of troll. You can burn to level cap in a few days.

    I've had about enough of you.
    And i have had enough of people pretending that they like current sam just to laugh in my face
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    Meridia Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    And i have had enough of people pretending that they like current sam just to laugh in my face
    Who says they are pretending though? The keyword is "like". That is subjective. It is no different than any other class changes. Some SMN love the new changes, others despise it. I was not a fan of Bow Mage in HW, but a lot of people love it and want it back. Just because you don't like it (and can have very valid reasons for it) does not mean anyone having a different opinion is automatically a white knight.
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    Last edited by Menriq; 08-13-2022 at 06:21 AM.

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    Thymos Helmsplitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I mean...I'm not quitting, but I am more than likely not going to play SAM in 6.2
    That's fair, man. It's just a personal choice. Don't expect people to follow or anything. I've been playing since 2.1 IIRC and dropping jobs since 4.0 started. This one's just another kick in the nuts for me. All my favorite jobs are neutered and the one that seems okay-ish and I like to play most after SAM is lined up to be "adjusted" next. (DRG)

    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I just picked up Sam and like it so eh.
    Ignorance is bliss.
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    They fix something and people wanna leave. -shrug- They didn't even get into the adjustments.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    They fix something and people wanna leave. -shrug- They didn't even get into the adjustments.
    Making sam's big hits auto crits that hit like wet noodles and removing kaiten which makes kenki pointless as we spam shinten is fixing something? There was nothing wrong with SAM pre 6.1.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Making sam's big hits auto crits that hit like wet noodles and removing kaiten which makes kenki pointless as we spam shinten is fixing something? There was nothing wrong with SAM pre 6.1.
    Oka namakiri ruined the job for me. Pointless extra cast at original midare potencies once every 2 minutes. Woo....


    Nerfed midare bad.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oka namakiri ruined the job for me. Pointless extra cast at original midare potencies once every 2 minutes. Woo....


    Nerfed midare bad.
    Ogi Namakiri was perfectly fine and the new 2-minute/1-minute rotation was a lot more interesting than the old loop.

    What is not fine is removing kaiten and destroying any meaning of kenki management and then turning big hit casts into wet noodles. The entire appeal of sam for most people was the build up into big hits. Now those moves are just flashy animation with no spice to them. There's no excitement anymore to them and making them have cast times now is completely stupid. Why am I casting for something that is weak as hell? My regular attacks crit for nearly as much as midare and ogi.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Ogi Namakiri was perfectly fine and the new 2-minute/1-minute rotation was a lot more interesting than the old loop.

    What is not fine is removing kaiten and destroying any meaning of kenki management and then turning big hit casts into wet noodles. The entire appeal of sam for most people was the build up into big hits. Now those moves are just flashy animation with no spice to them. There's no excitement anymore to them and making them have cast times now is completely stupid. Why am I casting for something that is weak as hell? My regular attacks crit for nearly as much as midare and ogi.
    I disagree, I loved 5.x sam, and despise what they did with it in 6.0.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Yeah white knight troll we got you



    Another white knight troll, wanna play 7.0 where all classes have just 1 button?
    How the hell am I a white knight? I'm 83 atm and never played with kaiten. I don't feel the job is missing anything.

    If anyone here is being hostile or trolling it's you.
    (23)

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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    How the hell am I a white knight? I'm 83 atm and never played with kaiten. I don't feel the job is missing anything.

    If anyone here is being hostile or trolling it's you.
    You might want to check this thread https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Kaiten-removal

    As of right now sam is a hot topic currently
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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