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  1. #1
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    Malheiro's Avatar
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    Maliro Liro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90

    High ping problems

    Well, I play on high ping, almost 200, can't do much about it because every server is far from South America

    And that's good and all, I can play just fine, a little tight on the snapshots, but completely playable

    Unless we are talking optimization

    Machinist is impossible on high ping, those 1.5 weaves just wont work, if they do I need to not hesitate for a single split second

    Double weaving is very hard too, or impossible without delaying my gcd in the case of monk/ninja/samurai that have faster gcds, or red mage and reaper with their 1.5s and single weaves

    And its just uncorfortable to play, a ping compensation would be nice, or something like that if possible

    A South America server is a dream but without localization and marketing it wouldnt be very good
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    You can play Machinist by weaving after Hypercharge is over.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You can play Machinist by weaving after Hypercharge is over.
    You might as well have told him he can play machinist, but only badly by losing out on a bunch of dps.



    The ping problems are unfortunately a thing that has existed for a while.
    The way I understand how animation lock works is that the server tells your client that you have to wait ~600ms to use your next action, but those 600ms are applied after the server responds. The higher your ping the longer it takes for that response which means that in practice your animation lock gets longer the higher your ping is.

    Only solution is to wait until SE finally does something about the way they designed the oGCD animation lock...or do things that are against the ToS, which nobody should have to resort to.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-12-2022 at 11:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    You might as well have told him he can play machinist, but only badly by losing out on a bunch of dps.
    That's really what I did say, but I think the developers probably intend it the way I said otherwise they would have been more considerate of ping.

    If you use it when Gauss Round and Ricochet are freshly on cooldown with 0 charges, you get a 90s reduction, putting them perfectly at 3 charges. You lose about 8 seconds + however long it took you to press Hypercharge + how long it took to press the GCD after Hypercharge is finished. With each being 120 potency, it's about a third of the potency lost, 80.

    It's more of a loss before level 74 when we only have 2 charges.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That's really what I did say, but I think the developers probably intend it the way I said otherwise they would have been more considerate of ping.
    Except the last time it was brought up they were surprised that ping was apparently an issue, almost as if they never even tested how the jobs play with non jp ping.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If you use it when Gauss Round and Ricochet are freshly on cooldown with 0 charges, you get a 90s reduction, putting them perfectly at 3 charges. You lose about 8 seconds + however long it took you to press Hypercharge + how long it took to press the GCD after Hypercharge is finished. With each being 120 potency, it's about a third of the potency lost, 80.
    Which quickly add up over the course of a fight.

    You also have to keep in mind the dps lost from not being able to align the oGCDs with party buffs, especially since the OP has trouble with double weaving as well.


    We are specifically talking about optimization here, every bit of potency lost that you can't even fix by just playing better is an issue...an issue that players with low ping just don't have to deal with.
    In your run-of-the-mill expert roulette it really doesn't matter if you clip some GCDs.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-13-2022 at 07:48 AM.

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    Get XIVAlexander. Or install QuickLauncher and grab NoClippy from the Dalamud plugins. SE isn't fixing the issue, players have fixed it long ago.
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    Maliro Liro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Get XIVAlexander. Or install QuickLauncher and grab NoClippy from the Dalamud plugins. SE isn't fixing the issue, players have fixed it long ago.
    That is not ok, SE should fix it, not some third party alterating program, and If people just use it and don't complain there's even less chance of it being fixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Get XIVAlexander. Or install QuickLauncher and grab NoClippy from the Dalamud plugins. SE isn't fixing the issue, players have fixed it long ago.
    It helps, but it's hardly a definitive solution, even paid VPN services struggle to make a dent.

    Latam servers are a bit of a pipe dream, but eh... no harm in asking I guess.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Ah.. I remember the good old days in The Navel (Hard) with 200 ping.
    "I was totally out of that!"
    Good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cach View Post
    It helps, but it's hardly a definitive solution, even paid VPN services struggle to make a dent.

    Latam servers are a bit of a pipe dream, but eh... no harm in asking I guess.
    Getting something that helps is all you can do so may as well do it.
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